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Old 03 December 2005, 04:54   #11
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Google, Google, Google. How many Searays have you two owned?!! Let's have some first hand experiences for a change, rather than those of some hillbilly hick from Skintsville Mississippi who new a guy that once had a Searay!! I've been involved with this boat type for years, the only other manufacturers that compare with Searay in this sector are Four Winns and Chapparal. Get Googling on some of the others and see what "Horrors" you can dig up.
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Old 03 December 2005, 05:11   #12
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Searay = poor man's Fairline ! You're comparing apples and oranges!
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Old 03 December 2005, 05:17   #13
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a little stastictic

in 2003 there were 130,000 ribs + 2.5 m made in europe and france made 35% of them

there were 6570 ribs made in the uk

italy made 6100

slovinia made 25
can't be botherd listing the 30 countreies

so evan the big boy zodiac is hardley mass produced
when you look at other figures for boat manafactures

its not a cottage industry but its not premiership either
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Old 03 December 2005, 05:22   #14
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Google, Google, Google. How many Searays have you two owned?!!
I haven't owned any and when I read this 5 years ago I decided that I wouldn't be owning a "US lake boat" in future either! I was very careful with my post not cast judgement but let the reader decide and make there own mind up. The pictures I think you will agree are quite worrying.

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Old 03 December 2005, 05:43   #15
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Searay = poor man's Fairline ! You're comparing apples and oranges!
Fairline Targa 30
Searay 315 Sundancer

So which is the apple and which is the orange?
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Old 03 December 2005, 06:00   #16
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Fairline Targa 30
Searay 315 Sundancer

So which is the apple and which is the orange?
I'm not a fairline fan particularly, so not a comparison i'd make, but I can show you plenty of Searays, including the NEW one my brother bought, with laminate problems, bad crazing, and bits falling off all over the place, rotten core (unprotected/sealed), etc, etc, etc, so mr expert, do you know what a chopper gun is?, would you want a boat made using this technique?

Just because a company is small, doesn't mean they don't know how to build a boat properly. There will be good, and bad, in both main stream mass manufacture, and 'cottage' type builders, you just gotta choose, but of course you'll need knowledge for that, so you'd better seek advice.


beyond that, i'd just echo pete7's words
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would you consider a maxum 'mass produced' and on a par with Searay for modern techniques?

have a look at this: http://www.boatmad.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=maxum
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Old 03 December 2005, 06:27   #18
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I know what a chopper gun is and no i wouldn't want a boat produced by that method. As there is no real bonding between the layers of Mat.

I'd have to believe however that using proper laminating techniques on more of a production line basis might lead to some economy of scale leading to leading to a reduced COQ to the manufacturer and then hopefully the customer.

Id be interested in hearing the views of Gav, Steve the boat, TD, Leeway or Bryn? (trio) about it and indeed the toobers
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Another point to bear in mind when comparing the two scales of manufacturer is the ability of the smaller "Cottage industry" company is thier ability to make more of a custom build for a customer, whereas with the larger companies you get what they are making.
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Old 03 December 2005, 09:42   #20
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in my humble opinion the best build quality of hulls is normally from the smaller manufacturer as are all of the uk rib builders but you will always get rogue (no offence stu)manufacturers like the one who used to use chipboard for the transom !!! ps riva where did the statistics come from the number of ribs built in the uk seems very high
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