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Old 23 August 2005, 05:40   #21
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Old 23 August 2005, 07:39   #22
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Nowhere in particular, just widening my Ribbing opportunities by not always needing a crewmate!
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Old 23 August 2005, 09:30   #23
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After attending a Sea Survival course in Falmouth I got some very good advice from the local RNLI Sea Safety officer.

This was in the form of a 12 page guide from "Sailing today" compiled by the Tim Bartlett.

Considerations such as additional buoyancy when wearing foul weather gear, spray hood, auto inflation, crouch straps etc were taken into account

In the interest of safety I am repeating the conclusion on testing 30 lifejackets, though I might get told off

"We think there is real cause for concern whether a 150N lifejacket are really adequate for use with foul weather clothing. Amid this gloomy picture, though, there are a few bright spots; the Plastimo's Cruiser 150 is one of them, its light weight very comfortable jacket at a sensible price making it a good basic buy, though narrowly beaten to our budget buy award by the Parmaris lite.

For not much more money Aladdinís Cave Ocean Passage Plus is stunning value, if money is no object Crewsaver Crewfit Plus is a very conventional top of the range jacket, while the SeaSafe Sea Explorer shows what can be achieved if you treat the EN standard as a guideline rather than as gospel. An honourable mention though has to go to Viking, My own personal pick would be the rather industrial looking Viking 1 SOLAS, itís not hugely expensive but itís got enough extra buoyancy to make all the difference between floating face down and face up"

I went for the Crewsaver Crewfit Plus buts itís rather pricy, however I hope that it will last for some time and I donít think you can put a price on safety.

Out of 25 automatic lifejackets two failed to inflate automaticlly, they did say that given most manufactures buy their trigger mechanisms from the same suppliers, it wouldnt be fair to name names.

McSalvors rocks!!

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A lot would depend on the type of foul weather gear - a drysuit with seals will provide is own buoyancy as will the fishermans style floatation suits.
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Old 23 August 2005, 11:05   #25
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A lot would depend on the type of foul weather gear - a drysuit with seals will provide is own buoyancy as will the fishermans style floatation suits.
I agree that it depends on what you are wearing and that a neoprene dry suit will be self-buoyant but a membrane dry suit on it own is useless

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...Considerations such as additional buoyancy when wearing foul weather gear, spray hood, auto inflation, crouch straps.......
And another thing for a long time there has been an urban myth flying around about leg straps on life jackets I heard it from someone I know at the RNLI, he said that several people had drowned in their lifejackets because they were not wearing leg straps but he was unable to produce any statistics

Does anyone know for a fact of more than one case where someone has drowned while wearing a lifejacket Des
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Old 23 August 2005, 11:11   #26
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I donít Des but I know when I jumped into the swimming pool with full foulies using a jacket with out crouch straps the dam thing kept trying to ride up over my head, thatís in a flat pool no wind and no waves.

I believe the crouch straps would help prevent this.

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I donít Des but I know when I jumped into the swimming pool with full foulies using a jacket with out crouch straps the dam thing kept trying to ride up over my head, thatís in a flat pool no wind and no waves.

I believe the crouch straps would help prevent this.

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A lot depends on how the jacket fits - if you do up the straps really tight it won't ride up anyway but a lot of people have them way too loose!!!
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Old 23 August 2005, 11:24   #28
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I donít Des but I know when I jumped into the swimming pool with full foulies using a jacket with out crouch straps the dam thing kept trying to ride up over my head, thatís in a flat pool no wind and no waves.

I believe the crouch straps would help prevent this.

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Shaggy,
Oh Iím sure you are right, we were trained to jump in with our arms folded over the front of the jacket to stop this

But this really isnít the issue, the myth goes that you will drown in your jack if you donít wear a strap and I can't find any evidence of this

I donít mind doing anything providing there is a proven reason for doing it, where I have a problem is when someone wakes up one morning and thinks it is a good idea and tries to get the rest of use to do it

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The crotch strap stops the jacket going up over your head. I tried not using a crotch strap on my Sea Survival course - and I spent most of my time trying to stay in the jacket (until I did it back up).

I get my life jackets from Mike at Bayblast Marine - he posts on here. His e-mail is mike@bayblast.co.uk

We have been using the Sigma adult jackets and the Omega kids jackets this season - and we've been very impressed. They don't go off when they get wet from spray or splashing - I think they need approx 20 - 30 cms of water pressure to initiate - but if you find yourself in the water, the sensor fires the canister very quickly.

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I wasnít a very good student go's in one ear and out the other.

Good fun and well worth doing the course, wouldnít like to spend long in a 6 man life raft, got cramp after about 5 mins.

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