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Old 02 February 2014, 04:17   #231
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Looks like the perfect time to wear the cord full time, and unplug from the boat when you want to move around, rather than take off the cord?
This is not so easy on some bigger boats - if I am alone and trying to anchor near a beach in wind / waves I have to move through a hatch to the bow to deploy. Shutting down the engines poses a risk in that sort of circumstances. A kill cord has its limitation in some instances but I still believe its the best option generally.

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Old 02 February 2014, 04:30   #232
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A day of tubing is my best example. I'm never behind the wheel for more than a few minutes at a time. Back and forth around the boat is the worst thing for kill cord use. I'm as good as I can be about it, more so after this milly accident, bit it's still a PITA. And electronic system would be better for that.

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the kill cord system is ideal when you are swapping helms all the time. Everyone has a KC round their leg and when swapping one person unplugs (which tests the system), turns off the ignition, the next plugs in and turns the key to restart. It ensures that the engine is off during a high risk time, people moving around the boat where someone could trip and fall onto the throttle. It only takes around 2 seconds to plug in a KC and restart an engine so I can't see an argument for leaving it running while swapping over.

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I wonder how much of it is the fiddly little metal clip. Would something quicker and easier to use - a webbing leg strap with fastex type buckle - be an improvement?
Some people use something like a dog collar. Jetski versions are available with velcro straps. But if you adopt the keep it attached to your approach the "fiddly" clip is not an issue - have a kill cord for each helmsman.
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This is not so easy on some bigger boats - if I am alone and trying to anchor near a beach in wind / waves I have to move through a hatch to the bow to deploy. Shutting down the engines poses a risk in that sort of circumstances. A kill cord has its limitation in some instances but I still believe its the best option generally.

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I understand exactly what you are saying, and I'm not saying I would necessarily do something different from you, but if you look at the risk you've just described it is not insignificant. On your own. At the bow and working with an anchor. Wind & waves. Near a beach (possibly people around). If that was something that regularly caused me to leave the helm with the engine running I'd be looking at how you might deploy the anchor remotely?
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I understand exactly what you are saying, and I'm not saying I would necessarily do something different from you, but if you look at the risk you've just described it is not insignificant. On your own. At the bow and working with an anchor. Wind & waves. Near a beach (possibly people around). If that was something that regularly caused me to leave the helm with the engine running I'd be looking at how you might deploy the anchor remotely?
Well interestingly we have been working on this. Three of us who have Protectors have built this contraption for the bow (see pic). I can set it up before coming in to anchor. Its not perfected yet but I can now run the anchor warp back through the cabin to the helm station. I can then flick the rope and with the weight of the chain the anchor will usually drop. Still needs some development work.
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the kill cord system is ideal when you are swapping helms all the time. Everyone has a KC round their leg and when swapping one person unplugs (which tests the system), turns off the ignition, the next plugs in and turns the key to restart. It ensures that the engine is off during a high risk time, people moving around the boat where someone could trip and fall onto the throttle. It only takes around 2 seconds to plug in a KC and restart an engine so I can't see an argument for leaving it running while swapping over.

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Unless your in heavy seas and the helm will swap from one crew member to another whilst under power, I wouldn't be turning engines off. Once the new helm has taken over control of the boat the old helm the un-clips the KC and immediately re-clips it onto the new helm
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Unless your in heavy seas and the helm will swap from one crew member to another whilst under power, I wouldn't be turning engines off. Once the new helm has taken over control of the boat the old helm the un-clips the KC and immediately re-clips it onto the new helm
In heavy seas I like your solution, it ensures the kc is attached throughout the swapping over bit which in my opinion is the most dangerous part.

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From Mistress Rib - is it not possible for the designers of Rib ignitions to re-gig the starter key with a method that the key will not turn to start the engine unless the kill cord is in place and electronically Engadged - plus be Engadged clipped into a device that is attached to a person.......... How difficult could it be.........? Sounds maybe over kill but it could be done.....?
Of course there will always be those who would adjust or manipulate such a system. Yet for the majority it would be safety first.
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From Mistress Rib - is it not possible for the designers of Rib ignitions to re-gig the starter key with a method that the key will not turn to start the engine unless the kill cord is in place and electronically Engadged - plus be Engadged clipped into a device that is attached to a person.......... How difficult could it be.........? Sounds maybe over kill but it could be done.....?
Of course there will always be those who would adjust or manipulate such a system. Yet for the majority it would be safety first.
Have a look back over this thread and the others - most things have been rejected already ............ How difficult? Impossible for the 0 budget!
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