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Old 18 October 2004, 16:32   #1
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Gluing PU tubes

So I noticed this when recovering the boat on Sunday

I'm going to contact Barnet Marine and see what they say....but how much work do you think fixing it involves. Does the whole strip need to be taken off and re-glued or can the loose part just be stuck back. Underlying problems?

Could I glue it myself (PU Tubes) ? Any tips.


At least I now know where the water was coming from

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Old 18 October 2004, 16:48   #2
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Oh no!
Sounds like you need JW or ribraff or christopher or the tube experts...

I don't know about glue stuff myself, but if you need local help, then either Scott Braye or another local tube man are just a 'phone call away.
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Old 18 October 2004, 17:01   #3
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Oh no!
Sounds like you need JW or ribraff or christopher or the tube experts...

I don't know about glue stuff myself, but if you need local help, then either Scott Braye or another local tube man are just a 'phone call away.
Had Scott do a bigish job on my boat over the summer, he did a great job and even looked after the boat and did the job over two weeks while I was on holiday! He can usually do it in short notice and I can't fault the work on mine.
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You should be able to do a half decent re-glue if you read up on the various posts here, the problem is that its the bit under the water so it needs to be done pretty well for it not to get blasted off again. Give me a PM if you get stuck.

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Old 18 October 2004, 19:05   #5
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I'd give it a really firm tug to see whether the rest is attached properly before just regluing that length.
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Old 18 October 2004, 19:07   #6
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PU Tubes are actually easy enough to glue as long as you know what you are doing. Barnet Marine gave these instructions in my XS-Ribs manual and they worked perfectly on my buddys Tornado.

PLEASE READ THE SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS CAREFULLY
AND WEAR PROTECTIVE GLOVES AND EYE WEAR
WHEN WORKING WITH GLUE, THINNERS AND CELL COAT.


1) THE AREA TO BE GLUED.SHOULD BE CLEANED WITH ACETONE, THIS CAN BE PURCHASED FROM ANY CHEMIST. ALSO CLEAN THE SURFACE OF THE PATCH THAT IS TO BE APPLIED. IF A RUBBER MOULDING IS BEING BONDED TO THE FABRIC IT IS BEST TO "ROUGH" THE SURFACE FIRST WITH SANDPAPER.

2) MARK OUT THE AREA ON THE TUBE THAT IS TO BE GLUED WITH MASKING TAPE, CUT THE PATCH TO SHAPE MAKE SURE BOTH SURFACES ARE CLEANED WITH ACETONE.

3) MIX THE GLUE IN THE PROPORTION PROVIDED AND APPLY A COAT OF GLUE TO EACH SURFACE TO BE BONDED. ALLOW THIS COAT OF GLUE TO GO TOUCH DRY THE GLUE USED SHOULD BE BOSTIK 2402

4) ONCE THE FIRST COAT OF GLUE IS TOUCH DRY APPLY A SECOND COAT AND ALLOW THIS TO GO TOUCH DRY.

5) ONCE THE SECOND COAT IS TOUCH DRY START APPLYING THE PATCH FROM ONE CORNER, AS SOON AS THE SURFACES MEET THE BOND WILL BE INSTANT SO ALIGNING THE PATCH FROM THE WORD GO IS IMPORTANT. RUB THE PATCH WITH A HARD SMOOTH OBJECT TO REMOVE AIR.

6) ALLOW 24 HOURS FOR THE GLUE TO CURE CLEAN OF EXCESS GLUE WITH ACETONE, ALLOW 72 HOURS FOR FULL CURING.

FOR BEST RESULTS A WARM DRY ATMOSPHERE IS IDEAL. THE PREPARATION WITH ACETONE IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE GLUING PROCESS TO WORK PROPERLY.
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At least I now know where the water was coming from

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If you mean water getting into the boat there should not be any way that would let water in!
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If you mean water getting into the boat there should not be any way that would let water in!
Agree with Cookee. If I interpret the pix correctly you are talking about the flange of the tube where it is glued to the underside of the hull? Not sure how this can let water in other than if the whole tube was coming away? I had similar problems on a brand new BWM back in '98. (But hypalon toobs). Reason given for the failure was the boat builder did not clean the area sufficiently before applying the adhesive so it failed. (& pretty quickly). That area gets a lot of water pressure applied when underway so needs to be a good bond!

How old is the boat? Definately worth a conversation with Barnet Marine IMHO!
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Hi if your boat is only 2 years old then I would defiantly be on the phone back to Barnet! It could be the start of a much bigger problem!
At the very least register the problem with them, I would hope they would want to get to the bottom of what has gone wrong & put it right!
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Old 19 October 2004, 06:06   #10
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If you mean water getting into the boat there should not be any way that would let water in!
We had a similar problem - the water pressure forced water under the tubes, which then found a hole in the tape on the inside at the stern, causing a great fountain of water in the bilge. Barnet fixed the problem and threw in an engine service (took them a couple of goes to find which but had been left unlgued in the manufacturing process).

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