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Old 16 January 2003, 12:40   #51
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I have nothing against GECKO helmets.
It was just an observation.
As a matter of fact a customised snowmibile waterproof light helmet with intercom costs over GBP 1,000.
But this is a customised helmet specifically made for an individual not mass produced.
And as far as I know no no one wears specially made helmets for racing boats in Greece. If they do they all made in THE USA
And they are not cheap!!!
On the other hand try South Africa for good value for money and high quality staff
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Old 16 January 2003, 12:42   #52
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From what I've seen demonstrated between Gecko helmets and helmets using shear pins & breakaway devices these points were obvious:

1) The gecko visor using the stud fastenings does not detatch unless considerable force is applied when being pulled back over your head. If the visor buckets, it would break your neck before the pins sheared.

2) The chin strap on the gecko doesnt give easily - no shear pin. Again bucketing would break your neck.

3) as I understand it, although I may be wrong here, the BS standard for marine helmets isnt that far away from hard hats in what it has to achieve. Just because something is BS rated doesnt make it the best product available. "Coolness" shouldnt come into consideration with saftey gear (although it usually affects peoples decisions).

From looking closely at the gecko and communica helmets together, the communica one is likely to last longer, be safer in an accident and has easily replaceable parts. The communica helmets are built to a higher impact spec. as far as I could see.

Having had sales pitches from both - I would not buy a gecko over a communica helmet. I would recommend talking to them both before parting with cash though.

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Old 16 January 2003, 12:45   #53
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Well there you are then should of bought a Gecko and you would of saved some money,unless you wanted to go skying in it.

You might look a bit daft on the Piste sporting your new Gecko .
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Old 16 January 2003, 12:58   #54
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Thorper Hi.

Well your doomed with a helmet and your doomed withought.

I think a lot of it is down to what speed your hopeing to do when you need the helmet.

Well dont take this the wrong way but I will have a gander at both products,I still support a Manufacturer who is prepared to come on here and justifie there products.Have you actualy bought a Communica Helmet then? If so how much and where from.
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Old 16 January 2003, 13:15   #55
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Hi

Not bought a Communica helmet yet, although I plan to do so in the next month or so. They are more expensive (210ish ex vat from memory), but that is with their coms system as well. The package we're looking at is around 1000 for helmets and an integrated coms system, but that's specific to what we want. I don't have the address info to hand - we're getting it direct from Communica.

I understand what you mean about justifying the product infront of people - the communica people do have the info about the forum, so they might get on and post something. It comes down to personal opinion, and having a go at both is the best way to make up your mind.

As far as speed / use goes, I have been looking for something to keep my brain safe(ish) in any kind of situation (overboard, sudden stop etc) at speeds over 30 knots, and up to 50. That and be able to talk to the driver / passenger (depending on who is doing what).

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Old 16 January 2003, 13:19   #56
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Well there you are then should of bought a Gecko and you would of saved some money,unless you wanted to go skying in it.
What's wrong with skiing any way??? LOLOL
Joking appart, the helmet I describe is made in the USA and is not for skiing. Is type of a helmet i.e. it can be used for biking, jet skiing etc etc too many applications to list.
But is just a bl.. helmet. Nothing more. So what is all this fuss about. How many times you wear it any way.
Shall we end this booooring subject
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Thanks thorpa for your reply.

Im a bit of a fudy duddy when it come to speed on ribs Im a cruising man.

So a quick smack on the back of the head to the driver for going over 40 knts with a hammer will do the trick on that one.

I think the comms thing looks the buisness anyway but Im sat on the fence as the costs are so high.

If you go in the drink at speed its all down to what sort of imaginary accident your going to have and at what speed,and what you hit with your Head on i suppose.There will be accidents where you want a full face Motorcycle helmet on for impact,and accidents where you want no helmet on at all so you can here what otheres are saying to you from the boat.

Good luck and lets hope you never need it in earnist.
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Old 16 January 2003, 13:52   #58
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And the web site

for communica helmets is ..............??????????
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Old 16 January 2003, 14:32   #59
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I have also seen the comunica stuff and I liked it. The quality being of prime concern. As Thorper said its not cheap stuff, but it can be built to your needs, the service is great and the guy that runs the company will spend hours with you to get it right.

As Jelly said in an earlier post the best bet if you are interested is to ring them or go and see them. Comunica Industries International Ltd. Tel 01962 840084 ask for Ralph Chesters, they are based in Winchester our of Ralph's house. I did exactly that and even though I thought I was going to buy Gecko I have changed my mind after seeing a very good alternative. Its all down to personnal preference at the end of the day. I have also read lots of reports about Gecko .. all the stuff mentioned on here has given me doubts, and I have heard nothing bad about comuncia.

For me the Helmet will give protection from the elements, may provide some safety if I hit my head on anything on being thrown from the boat. Or if the boat hits anything either floating debris or even stuffing a wave, when the boat comes to an immediate stop it could protect me from impact by kit or others from behind. I doubt the helmet will do much if I hit water at speed apart from break off without breaking my neck, which is fine. I hope it's a complete waste of money and I never need to test the theory. I have only ever needed one once in 17years of ribing, and that was down to me being a young spunker and stuffing a wave by driving too fast in a following sea. Lesson learnt!

Some protection is better than no protection, and thats good in my book.

I started this discussion and its given me loads of info, as well as being quite entertaining. In fact all my recent posts have helped me and decison making. Its great to have access to such knowledge ... WELL DONE RIBnet!
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Like Crazyhorse I am well impressed with any manufacturer who is prepared to stick their head above the parapet on a forum such as this and explain their thinking/views/product, then come back with sensible answers to specific questions.
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