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Old 07 January 2003, 15:47   #31
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Very interesting!! and funny bet it was cold
Will have a look at the story on RI.
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Old 07 January 2003, 15:52   #32
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Andre...

Wasn't your driver dropped from the RI writers list after that issue?
It was a funny story, with a happy ending. So have you moved your home to England? Hope all is well with you and please say hello to your 'driver' for me if you speak with him soon.
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Old 07 January 2003, 16:03   #33
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Hi Neil

To answer your question - no I have not moved home I am English and live in the UK but travel a lot to Poland on business as you must have guessed from my posts

the article in question was written by HMS not my driver and yes will say hallo to him from you.

Have you read that article ?

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Yes I read the article...

but the driver also had a article about 'kill cords' in the same issue...

The Parker Ribs that you have posted picture of and as I understand, your personal boat as well, looks to be a nice boat w' the small diesel. Where are they made and contact info? I haven’t found a web site for them. I also remember something about you possibly being involved in a rib being made in Poland, did that come together...Parker Ribs?...
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Well the Gecko did once apply to the British Standard, this was a great standard - it was writen by Gecko with the BS insttute.
But it was impossible to get a copy of this standard we wanted it for work for the HSE case book so we could work- not available from BSi.
The story then thickens as I have only hearsay on this.
People retired from BSi and the standard was withdrawn.
I'm told there is a CE standard orginating in Italy on marine helmets though yet to find it

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PS its snowing hard in Docklands only got 400m vis!
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Old 13 January 2003, 12:31   #36
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Gecko Marine Safety Helmets

Hello to everyone who has been taking part in the ongoing discusson of Gecko Marine Safety helmet(s)

We have been looking through the posts and please find following in no particular order respective comments -

Towards the end of 1997 the Institute of Naval medicine produced a report looking at Head Protection and the causes of head injury for users of SFB`s / R.I.B`s.

The report found that a high percentage of head injuries were received from striking the head against the boat whilst falling overboard, hitting the head against the "falls" and missle impacts.

It also acknowledged that "wear of helmets is not without additional risk .........performance impairment and whiplash injury to the neck" .

The report further acknowledged that there was no single standard appropriate for helmets for SFB users and that standards from other helmets would be suitable to asses whether a helmet is appropriate for this purpose with immediate effect.

During 1998 the RNLI progressed forward with the Institute of Naval Medicines recommendations and Gecko along with other interested parties presented working proto-type helmet(s).

Late 1998, The RNLI, Metropolitan Police, BSI Product Services and Gecko Head Gear as manufacturer got together to discuss the design and impact requirements for a Marine Safety Helmet.

From this meeting the PAS:028 1998 (Product Approval Standard) for Marine Safety Helmets was drawn up, has been in place and is still the requirement for any helmet wishing to be BSI approved for Marine Safety Helmets.

All versions of the Gecko Marine Safety Helmet meet the requirements of PAS:028 1998 for Marine Safety Helmets

The B.S.I PAS:028 1998 standard has never been withdrawn by B.S.I

The helmet supplied by Communica has not been tested by B.S.I to the requirements of PAS:028 1998

Due to the size, shape and weight of a motorcycle helmet increases the risk of neck injuries / whiplash and the bucketing effect.

When wet any helmet that users open celled foam increases the weight and makes the helmet unhygienic.

The Gecko Marine Safety Helmet with visor weighs approx 750 grms wet or dry, with a motorcyle helmet starting at 1100 grms upwards depending on the make and model and increasing when wet.

Gecko, press stud visors to the helmet as it was considered by all the initial parties to be safer when looking for the visor to release than having shear studs or like that can be found on other helmets.

It is recommended that regular cleaning is undertaken between the visor studs and visor itself. If this is not actioned, then there is a risk of salt corroding the two components together and making the release of the visor difficult - which can lead to visor studs breaking after excessive force when trying to remove.

Any helmets that have had studs broken way, please return to Gecko from which we will look at case by case and if appropriate will happily re stud for you f.o.c

Gecko do manufacture helmets and are available in any primary Colour or mixture of two colours.

Gecko have taken on board comments from helmet users with respect to comfort and addressed the shape for comfort with the MK9 and again addressed the size for the largest of headsizes with the latest version the MK10, which utilizes an inflatable liner further for comfort, warmth and fitting.

Unfortunately visor misting is increased by weather conditions, temperature, how hard the user is working etc To help reduce this problem anti-mist wipes can be applied or by lifting the visor slightly from the downward position to give some airflow.

Mid 2003, Gecko are looking to have on offer a full face version of the helmet for users who want full frontal protect for R.I.B racing, Zapcat etc.

Hopefully the above has answered some of the questions out there, if you have any further comments / queries then please ask.

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To Mr gecko head gear.

Thanks for your post.

In the main are there many motorcycle helmets using open foam construction that are bsi approved?.

What is the criteria that pas:028 1998 conforms to that others dont.?

Have the RNLI placed an order for your new helmets and are they replacing there old ones?

Are you saying that becouse the New Gecko is lighter then there is less risk of Whiplash.And that this is an important consideration on a 40 knot rib?.

From a thermal point of view are you saying that a Geeko helmet have as much insulation as a normal motorcycle helmet and can deal with the same impact loads and float?.

Your full face helmet will its weight be increased to that of a normal crash helmet.?

You say that this helmet supplied by Communica is not type approved for marine use to your standared and that of the rnli.If this is correct what are the deficincies.

Can you print a copy of the standared Pas:028 1998

Do bsi state that there approved helmets should not be used in a marine enviroment.

Have the Police adopted your new helmets.On there fast support craft?

Thanks for your help
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I have to say that I know loads of people in BIBOA including myself who use the Gecko helmets and cruise thousands of miles each year. In my opinion they are excellent bits of kit and I will be upgrading to the new version as many of the others are as well. I have used full face crash helmets when we used to race and they certainly hurt your neck and back after a while. When they are wet they weigh a ton too.

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Old 14 January 2003, 04:43   #39
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You need more training LOLOL
Just joking couldn't restit it LOLOL
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Thanks Manos

Unfortunately we found that our boat was not quite fast enough for racing and decided to give up. Mind you we did win the Fowey race when every one else went the wrong way. This was about 10 years ago.

Hows your boat coming along Manos. Have you managed to get out in her yet, I mean in the race version you have. And are you pleased with her so far.

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