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Old 05 November 2014, 09:19   #1
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At last the LAWS that make it illegal to set of flares not bring a distress ...


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Old 05 November 2014, 09:40   #2
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At last the LAWS that make it illegal to set of flares not bring a distress ...
Which one makes it illegal to set off a single smoke flare in a field (with the landowner's permission), assuming you don't cause injury or damage?

Once you rule out injury or damage then the options are very much reduced (and obviously it's ALWAYS an offence to cause injury or damage - even if you use an ice lolly to do so, never mind a flare)

The explosive substances act may refer to storage conditions/quantities? Applies to all flares, no matter how you use them.

Firearms Act - similar - maybe an exemption for cartridge/pin flares if used in correct environment - a little like the blade laws??

This is one for Poly - he likes Rules. And maybe JK - he seems VERY fond of flarey things that go pop
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Did they just post their flip chart brain storming session or actually seek legal advice on that? Not least because several of those should have a nether bracket which says in England and Wales only! In Scotland at least there may be some more general reckless and nuisance offences. Now I'm not condoning letting off flares except in distress. But it would probably have been more helpful if they listed one offence which unambiguously made it an offence, or if they lobbied there ministers to make it one if this is really a problem.
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Did they just post their flip chart brain storming session or actually seek legal advice on that? Not least because several of those should have a nether bracket which says in England and Wales only! In Scotland at least there may be some more general reckless and nuisance offences. Now I'm not condoning letting off flares except in distress. But it would probably have been more helpful if they listed one offence which unambiguously made it an offence, or if they lobbied there ministers to make it one if this is really a problem.

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Two sides to this: Granted, flares (and other signals such as smoke or dye) are intended to attract attention to a distress situation, and as such should be reserved for emergencies; but the flipside is that most people have never activated a distress signal (I know I haven't, despite having purchased quite a few over the years.)

So, the question is, how does a person familiarize themselves with the device operation if you can't try them out? Trust that you'll be able to figure it out when things go pear-shaped? Doesn't sound like the wisest course of action.

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i guess this seems to be more centred on the fact that a flare is an aluminium tube thats fired, not a little bit of cardboard and dowl, it burns for 45 secs not 3 at twice the temperature and can cause serious damage to people and things, you wouldn't want to hold on to a roman candle in your back garden, and i would surmise that you have no desire to be burnt by a handheld, taking the chance when its critical and its a burn or your life!! let alone calling out the volunteers and emergency services and generally wasting everyones time!!
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Using them at SEA when it is not a distress situation IS a specific offence (under Merchant Shipping Act / Distress Signal Regs).
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So no gassing the neighbours by disposing of old smokes tonight! (Damn!)
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...but (& I'm only being devils advocate here) the original poster doesn't mention colour, so setting off a white flare would be no different to setting off a red flare if it caused injury, damage, terrorist alert, explosion etc, etc.

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