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Old 28 March 2011, 14:58   #1
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Are these cat C or B. I am thinking they are cat B since they are more of a commercial rib?
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Old 28 March 2011, 15:14   #2
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Are these cat C or B. I am thinking they are cat B since they are more of a commercial rib?
Neither for precisely the reason you state! Delta don't sell to public so are not recreational craft and therefore not ce marked.
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I own a 6.0m X-Range, it is CE rated Cat C.

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Ralf - That must be an exception, since i am pretty sure (since been recently having a little queste on the subject recently) that delta is not really concerned about CE categories due to the type of customers the intend to service, as Polwart advised above.

I have been considering to do a ce inspection on my boat (also a delta) but noted that the eu rules on it in the netherlands can practically only be enforced the moment i would sell the boat to another private person, which would then be against the law.

How i understand it (cutting a few corners now), CE was intended to ensure a certain quality for batches of boats being built in for example low labor cost countries, but implementation of EU laws apparently dont make any exceptions for ex commercial crafts: There are no real lupeholes other than racing boats, rowing boats and experimental craft.

There furthermore seems to be a lot of- in my opinion- rather suggestive information on 'how bad it is' to have a non ce approved boat, but personally i have been mostly reading it on websites of surveyor companies who offer you post inspection surveys for considerable amounts of money. The dealbreaker for me was that although i could get it certified for a 3 digits number, my yanmar 4LH old school turbodiesel (prior 2006 engine) needed to be tested on emissions and noise and i think that it is as eco friendly on emissions as an east german trabant car would be, so i dropped the whole thing and promised myself not to sell the boat.

Above is experience on this subject in the netherlands and i am not sure how it is exactly dealt with in uk legislation...you will also most probably need to provide a manual (after all some warnings are not more than logic : dont put your boat in the bathtub or deflate it in the middle of the ocean!) but there are plenty better examples of such a manual to be found online. Also keep in mind that if the boat is built / brought into excistence prior to june 2008 ce will not be applicable in any case.

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Ralf = Raph, apologies!
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Gohelm, it sounds very much like the Netherlands is similar to the UK. Nothing much actively done to enforce the RCD. In reality someone selling an ex-commercial non CE marked rib here is very unlikely to attract attention from the authorities; and even most buyers are unlikely to be that bothered. If someone was selling brand new boats or importing second hand boats from outside the EU without CE marking then that might get some officials interested - but it is regulated by people who look after consumer protection laws, underage alcohol/cigarette purchases, pirated music/videos, and a few dozen other rules - so usually know very little about boats.

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Also keep in mind that if the boat is built / brought into excistence prior to june 2008 ce will not be applicable in any case.
I think 1998
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Are these cat C or B. I am thinking they are cat B since they are more of a commercial rib?
The Dash is and old design so if it's an old boat it may be before CE rating. Are they still made?
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Polwart, yesi t's june 1998, same date as theCIN numbers started.. a typo,apologies
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