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Old 08 October 2013, 05:40   #11
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Another situation where the law potentially reduces the chances of solving a crime.

There might be the case where this car has nothing to with it......maybe, possibly, potentially........
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Old 08 October 2013, 06:08   #12
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Does make you wonder what CCTV and the police are for.
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I don't understand this - anyone in a public place can take a photograph of whatever and whoever they like, that is the law. Surely what they then wish to do with this photograph ie publish it, share it etc is up to them?
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Is it possible to share the location of the images for viewing outside of here? By pm or email?
pm sent with link
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Bit dodgy given that a recent case of a vigilante group exposing supposed paedophiles attacked & seriously injured a completely innocent man !!! Much as I might agree with catching the thieving scum the law's there for a reason even if it does seem stupid.
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Another way for Doug is to get Marine Police at Hamble to send out the images, they are allowed just needs a gentle boot up the **** to get the action done. If you struggle let me know as likely to see them this week whilst on charter from HPM. They will also use Twitter as a medium as I have looked at images they send out ref cars and people

Have to say that Doug is correct from links I have seen, if they can locate the thieves I cant see how they can deny- But wont go there!!!
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Old 08 October 2013, 06:41   #17
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Publish the pics, ..., whats the worse that could happen,
- someone innocent gets attacked / abused by an overzealous ribnetter
- an over enthusiastic ribnetter takes the law into his own hands and approaches the driver of the car and (a) gets a kicking / stabbed OR (b) ends up charged with assault / breach of the peace
- someone innocent spends a big part of their day answering police enquiries about a crime they didn't commit because a ribnetter is adamant it is the same man from some ropey images.
- a defence lawyer gets a 'thief' off using some technicalities of the law (or even just the threat of technicalities which make the CPS decide it is not worth the hassle).

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Stick it on face book. No one stops you there.
PM me the pics and I'll put them up
mmm... well Facebook might not be "moderated" but when Facebook cases do come before the courts the sentences are not insignificant...

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Another situation where the law potentially reduces the chances of solving a crime.
not really Peter, there is a process to follow which makes it perfectly acceptable to use the images. I'm just asking that we follow due process rather than assume that it will be ok.

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Another way for Doug is to get Marine Police at Hamble to send out the images, they are allowed just needs a gentle boot up the **** to get the action done. If you struggle let me know as likely to see them this week whilst on charter from HPM. They will also use Twitter as a medium as I have looked at images they send out ref cars and people
- indeed, all I need is the name of the officer / case reference I'm willing to do the legwork and make sure he is OK with us publishing them.

We do want to use RIBnet as a way of helping tackle marine crime - but lets do so responsibly; it would be far better to be working with the police rather than risk undermining any investigation they may have.
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I strongly suspect the police won't be investigating anything.it's a low value crime against what you'd have to assume is a middle class member of society, with no injury.

I suspect it will be issued a crime number for statistic/insurance purposes then with no further active action.

I fully respect anyone's right to want to investigate a crime to bring a guilty party to justice.

I don't agree with DPA in this situation or the process.
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I strongly suspect the police won't be investigating anything.it's a low value crime against what you'd have to assume is a middle class member of society, with no injury. I suspect it will be issued a crime number for statistic/insurance purposes then with no further active action. I fully respect anyone's right to want to investigate a crime to bring a guilty party to justice. I don't agree with DPA in this situation or the process.
Some twat came on my drive the other night and nicked the front grill and lights of my new defender I wish I had CCTV of the thieving bastards with a picture and car reg I'd pay some body to find them and pay them a visit with a baseball bat, they wouldn't be picking anything up for a few weeks, where we live you do the crime and get found out you get battered the justice system in this country is a load bollocks
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I strongly suspect the police won't be investigating anything.it's a low value crime against what you'd have to assume is a middle class member of society, with no injury.
personal experience suggests that is probably not the case (or certainly up in the frozen north!); especially if they have something to go on which a distinctive vehicle seems to be.

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Presumably you accept that has to be within the limits of the law!

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I suggest the forum for discussing that is not here - perhaps pop in to visit your local MP!
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