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Old 07 May 2015, 03:21   #1
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Bench or Jockey on Sea Safari/RIB Rides

So whats the arguments for each? I've seen both types used on Sea Safari/RIB Experiences/Rides. Is one better than the other from different standpoints or is it down to personal preference and operating conditions? Thoughts?
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So whats the arguments for each? I've seen both types used on Sea Safari/RIB Experiences/Rides. Is one better than the other from different standpoints or is it down to personal preference and operating conditions? Thoughts?
for sure Jockey seats

firstly safer , better back support , good grab handles , you can stand up and be close and personal with the sea or whatever you are looking at in the sea.

as for bench seats - you cannot stand up and if you do no back support and if you are stuck in the middle on a 3 person bench seat you miss the fun

the attached photo show a Parker 900 Baltic in the Baltic sea where they only do "white knuckle rides" bench seats not suitable
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Personally I agree jockey seats all the way, never liked bench seats on boats let alone on a RIB I was just wondering what some peoples motivation was for choosing them over jockey seats, I imagine on a commercial vessel they are cheaper (just hazarding a guess there) but is that compromising safety and enjoyment for the sake of a bit of cash?
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Personally I agree jockey seats all the way, never liked bench seats on boats let alone on a RIB I was just wondering what some peoples motivation was for choosing them over jockey seats, I imagine on a commercial vessel they are cheaper (just hazarding a guess there) but is that compromising safety and enjoyment for the sake of a bit of cash?
I think they have their place, depending on size & layout of the boat in question. I was pleasantly surprised how comfortable & secure I felt aboard Avocet's "Grimalkin" (the very fella & boat on the Ribnet home page) We went across to the IOW for lunch from Poole (Oooh! get me, I went all Solent then) in fairly snotty conditions & the ride was dry & comfy. Grimalkin is a fairly hefty beast & her size allows for the bench seat. I don't think that they'd have a place on a commercial boat, which are usually laid out with a rear helm position.
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Personally I agree jockey seats all the way, never liked bench seats on boats let alone on a RIB I was just wondering what some peoples motivation was for choosing them over jockey seats, I imagine on a commercial vessel they are cheaper (just hazarding a guess there) but is that compromising safety and enjoyment for the sake of a bit of cash?
It depends on your intended use, and "audience". jockey seats are obviously the sort of thing you need for fast rib rides, but for sea safari stuff perhaps targeting families or older folk who are less likely to get a leg over a jockey they might have a role. My gut feel is you can fit more people in the same space using benches too. I don't think it's automatically a safety compromise if your operations and skippers understand the limitations.
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All fair points indeed, I suppose it would be beneficial if you were running both white knuckle and sea safari rides to have two boats with both set ups but obviously this incurs a hefty cost just for the difference. I guess looking at it you would have decided on what best suits the majority activity you are intending to offer and then limit the other activity depending on setup. Thanks for your opinions guys, i'm interested in starting up my own Sea Safari/RIB ride/Charter business in the future and its good to get various opinions from people with experience other than my own thoughts.
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IMO, both types have their uses and can be used together if the bench if kept toward the back of the RIB and the jockeys to the front. If you design the RIB with deck rails or anchor points then you can have both formats on the one boat at a manageable extra cost (certainly cheaper that two boats ) You'll note the grab handles available to the bench users...

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IMO, both types have their uses and can be used together if the bench if kept toward the back of the RIB and the jockeys to the front. If you design the RIB with deck rails or anchor points then you can have both formats on the one boat at a manageable extra cost (certainly cheaper that two boats ) You'll note the grab handles available to the bench users...

The rib on the photo has a very nice beam but the seats are rubbish every single one of them and I would go further and even say unsafe especially the front ones . Have you forgotten the Celtic Pioneer incident in 2008? Not a good idea to post that photo Mind you a different brand rib but similar seats
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What makes them so rubbish? They all have back support and front grab handles?
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The rib on the photo has a very nice beam but the seats are rubbish every single one of them and I would go further and even say unsafe especially the front ones . Have you forgotten the Celtic Pioneer incident in 2008? Not a good idea to post that photo Mind you a different brand rib but similar seats

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