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Old 09 May 2015, 14:08   #21
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East coaster then

You get around though, and I laughed, in a good way, when I saw how you got your ob from the back of the motor. Ingenious sir.

And Fender, you did reply.....
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Old 09 May 2015, 14:13   #22
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Do you want to be in the times you might need help for any reason
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And also able to Help others for the same reasons then the answer is yes you need it all your talking a few hundred quid!WHATS YOUR LIFE WORTH?
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The funny thing is people actually take the time to reply and debate with the OP
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Ach..I dont know.. I know some of the area Robert will be boating in..a wee hand held VHF..would probably be useless in some of the sea lochs up there ? I couldnt get any reception in mine in a lot of that area..and hardly a boat to be seen.

Again there are remote areas where there will be no other boats to see his light at night . hell..half the folk up there probably dont have MOTs on there cars if its anything like when I lived there..its like he says..it is a different world

More likely to die of alcohol poisoning that getting chopped up by a prop too

Not that I agree with his views..but I understand the local area..its not like the Solent or anything..but I appreciate you can drown in any water..including the stuff in whisky


I would say Robert is a rebel more than a troll..
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Old 09 May 2015, 14:20   #24
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Pretty much , zilch.

Out of your list, the 'help others' is all I'd bother over .
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Ach..I dont know.. I know some of the area Robert will be boating in..a wee hand held VHF..would probably be useless in some of the sea lochs up there ? I couldnt get any reception in mine in a lot of that area..and hardly a boat to be seen.

Again there are remote areas where there will be no other boats to see his light at night . hell..half the folk up there probably dont have MOTs on there cars if its anything like when I lived there..its like he says..it is a different world

More likely to die of alcohol poisoning that getting chopped up by a prop too

Not that I agree with his views..but I understand the local area..its not like the Solent or anything..but I appreciate you can drown in any water..including the stuff in whisky


I would say Robert is a rebel more than a troll..
Up here 'normal' not 'rebel' , hell I'm rebelling against the norm I suppose by asking over insurance

Cars, however, I admit, are more 'dodgy'.
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I think risk assess your day you might not have good radio reception but with out one you have none.
Get a PLB set up for land & sea
I was up loch etive on ERR last weekend there were people about at the top of the loch if your seen help will come.
I carry two radios,PLB,two strobes,flares &a back up engine plus nav lights &a search light.
A survival pack water,high energy bars and two means of making a brew.
Fully comp insurance.
OMO but,if your not not going to take every possible effort to protect your self & others on the water you shouldn't be there.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something about where and how you use your boat. By the way I've been on and around the water all my life too and after nearly fifty years I've learned to respect it.

When I was young I took risks and in every situation I scraped through I vowed to be better prepared and more cautious.

Back to where you do your boating. I learned power boats in a 13 foot dory with a 25 hp engine, in an estuary, below planing speeds long before safety kit was even thought about. My dad insured the boat but that was it! If my boating was like that now I wouldn't bother with as much kit as I do but we go offshore and I want to know I'm protecting myself, those on board and the rescuers who may have to come for me.

Last summer we had a problem with the ignition barrel and got stuck about four miles offshore. When the RNLI arrived I have never seen the eyes move so quickly around the boat assessing how prepared we were, how well dressed, what kit we had etc. They complimented me on how I'd prepared and handled the situation and I was flattered.

Good luck to you but please don't put other's at risk.
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Pretty much , zilch.

Out of your list, the 'help others' is all I'd bother over .
Well the advice is there take or leave ,your life might be worth zilch but the people that risk their lives looking for folk like you value theirs.
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Robert, in reply to your OP, you require nav. lights if you boat at night. Nothing else is a legal requirement. Given that no one on here is likely to emulate you, I can't imagine why they're getting so worked up about your boating habits? I mean, it's just between you and the water you hate!
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I'm from the Isle of Lewis, more remote than even yourself!
Even if you don't carry a VHF for your own good, if there are other boats in the area in distress you'll at least be able to hear them and help them. For the sake of around a hundred quid you could end up saving lives.

As for lights, I don't have any on my boat (I don't have a battery. Or go out at night...) mostly because I couldn't see where I was going - no harbour lights or anything around here. If I was planning to go out at night I'd probably stick a couple lights on the top of the cowling on a stick of some sort. Be seen be safe.

To be honest, not many folk up here insure their boats, unless it's commercial use.

Even on my thundercat I carry a grab bag with a couple bottles of water, a compass and a drogue anchor, as well as an anchor with chain and rope in case the engine stops and I'm drifting towards the rocks.
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