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Old 04 January 2004, 14:23   #1
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Okay. Time to bite the bullet.

Not had boat on water last year due to crewing for all and sundry but looking to do so this year.

Now the help bit;

Bearing in mind it hasn't been afloat or run for over a year and is sat ashore on trailer covered -

What should I do with the engine, service, replacements new fluids/seals etc etc? How much for a specialist to do this approx? or could I attempt this myself? (Usually fly a desk so be gentle). (Evinrude 125 v4 - circa 6-10yrs old)

Should I drain the remnants of old fuel from the tank? and if so what do I do with it?

Is it beneficial to replace the old electrics to be on the safe side, (Will be changing battery - nav light bulbs etc)

Currently sat on a break back trailer that is past it's sell by date I think - brakes stuck on, bearings gone (2 inches sideways play in wheels - like it when purchased, never been on road behind my car just sat in marina) is it worth renovating or should I try to buy a new one????

Any comments/advice greatly received - do not want to become a statistic.....
Cheers guys/girls
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Old 04 January 2004, 19:18   #2
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I would have a professional do a complete service on the engine. That will give you enough time to find out what's required if you wish to maintain it yourself (starting with winterising at the end of this season). I usually put any old fuel in the car!

The trailer may be worth salvaging. Do you need brakes? If not cut them off with an angle grinder and replace the bearings. However if rollers etc are kaput you may be better off replacing it.

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Old 04 January 2004, 19:29   #3
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If you want to maintain the outbaord yourself Do a night school course and get a manual. You can get some manuals from Amazon but also from Fairweather Marine in Fareham

If You decide to get a proper person to do it (and I would do that) first time then a fellow Kentish Lad recomends somebody in Kent fairly enthusiastically. PM Daniel and ask him who to take it to.

Electrics check them over for obviously signs of fraying or corrosion and replace them if neccasary Other than that take off all contacts and clean em and put them back with a suitable corrosion inhibitor or Vaseline at a push.

Take the whhels off and take a good look at the stub axles the bearings are on, if they are OK then you could replace the bearings and you'd lose your play
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Old 04 January 2004, 19:34   #4
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Providing it was working fine before you stored it. Take the cover off to make sure nothing is living in it. Same with the engine. If it all looks ok, charge the battery fully, give it some water to work in, prime it up and turn the key.
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Old 05 January 2004, 06:37   #5
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IMHO, in this order (bearing in mind you have a few months to deal with all this)

1) Fix trailer, you should be able to do this but might need a little help, poss take some pics of various parts you are concerned about and post them here? The problem, if you don't feel you can do it yourself, is that it's stuck where it is! You could maybe find someone at the marina? Or get a friendly mobile mechanic?

2) Don't bother changing battery untill you have tried charging it up and seing if it holds the charge.

3) Personally i would check all the electrics and just change them if they looked corroded or did not work (assuming you are talking instrumentation wiring here)

4) As Mr Humper said/mentioned, tow the outfit to Wayne Maddox Marine in margate, having booked it in first, and leave it with him and insist he does a sea-trial when he has finished the service. He will do this, it'll ensure it all works OK.

5) When you come and collect it let me know and we'll go boating around here, at least if you have a problemm, it's just been serviced and the'll be another boat about. You can then buy me a beer somewhere
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Old 05 January 2004, 06:44   #6
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Providing it was working fine before you stored it. Take the cover off to make sure nothing is living in it. Same with the engine. If it all looks ok, charge the battery fully, give it some water to work in, prime it up and turn the key.

I imagine that the water pump impeller would be a little unhappy with a year unused - might be worth changing this - although would probably be changed as part of a full service.
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Old 05 January 2004, 07:38   #7
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I imagine that the water pump impeller would be a little unhappy with a year unused - might be worth changing this - although would probably be changed as part of a full service.
So, what is likely to happen to the rubber and stainless steel?

Be rational. Do the rubber bushes on your can fail each year? Do the seals on your oven door fail each year? etc, etc.

The engine will be nice and oily inside, 2 strokes always are. Judging by discussion on this forum, the fuel could be a problem but it's never been a problem for my engines. Even after being stored for years.

Some of you are too emotional. It's just bits of metal and plastic.

I'm a bit grumpy this morning.
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Old 05 January 2004, 07:43   #8
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i agree with you Mr Walker, prob. wont be a problem, but this guy does say he is not that technically minded (or that's how i read it) hence our reccomendations.

If it was me i'd grease and check a few things and fill the fuel tank (dilute the older fuel) and off she'd go i suspect - but is this the best advice to give?
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Yes Daniel, I agree. I guess it'd just start up and be fine. Far better trying it before paying money unnecessarily.
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Old 05 January 2004, 08:23   #10
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I guess it'd just start up and be fine.
It's an envrude! In my limited relationship with them they never 'just started', but other people seam to have more sucess.

I still think giving advise like 'see if it starts' is irresponsiable, what if it does start, this chap goes to sea thinking all is fine and then there is a problem - you and i might be semi-technical and diagnose this or that but that's us.

I still say pay a profesional.
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