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Old 20 August 2015, 15:09   #1
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Motor decision

Greetings, I'm in the throws of getting a Honwave T32 ie.
There are three areas I need help with.
Firstly is the pump, is there anything more 'economical' on the market which will do the job other than the bravo? I have mains voltage available so 12v isn't a necessity, in fact I don't have 12v available or a car.
Secondly the engine. I'm going to have to lug it down a set of stairs, round the corner ( with the aid of a trolley), and 50 meters across a beach, and set up on my own, hence I'm thinking a 6 hp Suzuki 4t. Also the thought of an integral tank is favourable.
Primarily this is just so I can lift the engine easily, & potter out in the bay on calm days. That said I might like to go a bit quicker than a potter.
Should I man up, get an 8/9hp and a tank? Or will 6 satisfy my need for adventure?
Lastly, other than it being pilfered, is it a necessity for me to have insurance in the waters of Ibiza does anyone know?

Thanks in advance
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Old 20 August 2015, 16:33   #2
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two stroke will be less weight. An internal tank will give little range so you'll probably need to carry a top up tank anyway. I use a Bravo pump, pure bliss, don't know of a mains option.
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Old 20 August 2015, 17:45   #3
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two stroke will be less weight. An internal tank will give little range so you'll probably need to carry a top up tank anyway. I use a Bravo pump, pure bliss, don't know of a mains option.
I don't fancy a 2 stroke despite the weight advantage. Ive found a mains charger for the bravo pump so its a goer!

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Old 20 August 2015, 18:09   #4
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I don't fancy a 2 stroke despite the weight advantage.

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So why ask for advice

You wont find a lot of love for 4 strokes on lightweight SIBS here on the forum.

The answer is very simple.

New Tohatsu 9.8hp 2 stroke from Alderney, only 26kg and pretty much the perfect transportable SIB engine.

More power ? Mercury/Mariner 15hp or Yamaha 15hp all 2 strokes and 36 to 37kg.
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Old 20 August 2015, 19:18   #5
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I use an old two stroke suzuki 8hp. I lift it in and out of my campervan, I'm fit and strong but sure as heck wouldn't want to carry it up and down stairs. Just as a suggestion, research the weights of the different motors you're considering, fill a sack with the same weights, go up and down stairs, see how they feel. remember to throw in some ankle tapping sharp edges for reality.Good luck with your project.
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Old 20 August 2015, 19:34   #6
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Big question is how fast do you want to go......?
If it's just a potter around then a 2.5hp 4 stroke Suzuki will push your Honwave around at pottering speeds.
Integral tank only though (1litre) will run for hours on a single fill.
Very light at 13kg so can be carried one handed.
Very frugal so not much fuel needed.
Once you go past 6hp in 4 stroke land it ain't going to be pleasurable man handling up and down stairs on your own.
In fact it's an injury / accident waiting to happen
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Old 21 August 2015, 02:29   #7
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I'm with landlockedpirate all the way, I had the 6 hp Suzuki 4 s, crazy heavy and a massive size motor for the hp, also had a 6 hp mariner same problem, the 9.8 tohatsu 2s is defo the way to go, also if you have not purchased the honwave yet although great sibs they are well made but very heavy, I had a 2.4 air floor and could barley lift it, now have a 3.1 zodiac and can carry it on my shoulder, if you want a nice single cylinder 2 s I have a 5 hp tohatsu for sale, but like me I'm sure it won't be long before you want a smooth 2 cylinder 9.8 upgrade
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Old 21 August 2015, 13:20   #8
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I used to have a bigger heavier SIB which I used to take on scuba diving trips on the sea and sea lochs with a 3 hp engine. My longest day was 24 miles.

Bigger is better when you are using it, but when you also factor in portability and space, there is much to be said for a small engine.

In outboards as in motorcycling, the 2 stroke/4 stroke debate gets quite polarised. On the whole, the 2 stroke lobby is more vociferous. There are pros and cons to each.

I've owned three 2 strokes all of which were great to use, and my current engine is a 4 stroke. It's heavier, more expensive, but cleaner and quieter. I miss the smell of 2 stroke oil, but I don't miss the mixing. Also, any unused fuel can go in my lawnmower or motorbike because it isn't mixed with oil.
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. Also, any unused fuel can go in my lawnmower or motorbike because it isn't mixed with oil.
Would this matter? What harm does the oil do?? I'm all diesel cars now but I always used already mixed post season fuel in my Focus and still do in my lawnmower.
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Would this matter? What harm does the oil do?? I'm all diesel cars now but I always used already mixed post season fuel in my Focus and still do in my lawnmower.
Probably none in the lawn mower.

But if the bike has a catalytic converter, it'll likely bugger it up pretty quick.
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