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Old 07 August 2011, 09:38   #11
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I have hopefully attached some photos now. the boat is only 14 months old so still within warranty but how could we prove it to be a material failure.
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Old 07 August 2011, 09:47   #12
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in my opinion that shouldnt happen ,i would be back to the shop insisting they repair it ,cant see how they can say thats not a fault although they will probably try ! i would say its up to them to prove its not a fault in the fabric!
that would be my first port of call then if they refuse i would get in touch with CAB or if you have legal cover on your house insurance use that ,
hopefully they will repair it, i would think they would want to send it back to manufacturs to deterime the problem if they are sensible ,and take it from there ,but you only deal with the shop as thats who your contracts with ,so dont be fobbed off to the manufacturers thats there problem!
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Old 07 August 2011, 09:48   #13
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The best approach is to assert it must be material failure and get them to prove otherwise.

Having said that if the trailer in those images is your regular one it doesn't seem to support the boat properly and could have stressed the material either over time or at launch before the incident.
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Old 07 August 2011, 13:44   #14
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Will try contacting the dealer tomorrow. I don't know that I would ne happy with a repair as that would surely affect the resale value. Also I dint think I would feel confident going out in it again, that was one of the scariest things I've ever been through. It filled so quickly & sat so low in the water that we really thought it was sinking at first!
The trailer is an Indespension so wouldn't have thought it wasn't properly supported.
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Old 07 August 2011, 13:59   #15
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I hate to say this but if you're saying that is the boat's normal trailer no it's not properly supported. To me that doesn't look like an Indespension trailer for an inflatable... it looks like a rigid dinghy version. The ones for inflatables have the bunks right out almost over the mudguards so the tubes are directly supported... also they don't tend to have central rollers... should be pads.

You can see your bunks support the boat under the floor, possibly the weakest part for a point load. Your tubes have no support apart from where they flop onto the mudguards... and the mudguard stays are not designed to support this weight. They can and do break then in seconds the tyre will rip through a tube.

Sorry to be so negative.
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Old 07 August 2011, 14:22   #16
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That is a bit alarming as we bought it from a chandlery at South Queensferry as they recommended it for our sib!!
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It filled so quickly & sat so low in the water that we really thought it was sinking at first!
glad you managed to make it safely ashore. In reality, as you have discovered even with the hull completely flooded the boat will stay afloat, but of course its a slow wet trip to get back ashore.

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The trailer is an Indespension so wouldn't have thought it wasn't properly supported.
I wouldn't assume just because it is a big manufacturer that the trailer is ideal or set up correctly for your boat. However if Bosun's Locker sold you the boat and trailer as a package then if the trailer is not fit for purpose then this is their fault and they need to put it right.

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That is a bit alarming as we bought it from a chandlery at South Queensferry as they recommended it for our sib!!
Unfortunately it is a common problem that dealers sell whatever trailer makes their package the right price not the best trailer for the boat. It also seems that many boat dealers are pretty clueless (or lazy) at correctly setting up the trailer/supports for the particular craft.

Is the boat insured against accidental damage? If so I'd be contacting my insurer immediately and letting them take it up. If the conclusion from Honda/Dealer/Independent inspection is that you have hit something and torn it, or scraped it on the trailer etc then you will already have the ball rolling. If it turns out to be material failure then the insurer will add some weight (e.g. loss adjuster report) to getting it resolved.
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Old 07 August 2011, 14:45   #18
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Here is an eaxmple of the Indespension Merit range for smaller boats. This looks quite like yours with the bunks well in from the mudguards and central rollers and it states for hard hulled boats...

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This is the one for inflatables and you can see how it is designed for proper support...

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If you travel it with an outboard on and the transom is unsupported (can't quite see that from your images) it will be even worse.
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To me also it looks that is not a real material failure .
Poor inflating / floor assembly could give that result.

I hope they will manage to help you
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Any chance it may have ever been full or had a load of rain water or recovered full of water on that trailer at sometime ,
looks like was said by fenlander that the trailer is more for a hard hull r.i.b than a s.i.b .
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