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Old 13 March 2016, 19:28   #31
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Really useful - thanks! Might look at getting a launching trolley then to attach the dolly to. I've managed to ovalise the holes in one of my transom wheel tubes so they need replacing. Its actually cheaper to buy an entire launching trolley than the transom wheels for the honwave - crazy!
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Old 14 March 2016, 07:07   #32
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Chipko your images yesterday show your converted trolley perfectly... thanks for posting.

I just wonder when the outboard is on and you lift the handle to trolley it about is there a tendency for it to fall over backwards?
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Old 14 March 2016, 11:24   #33
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How far do you move your SIB on transom wheels?

Hi Fenlander,
You're right it will tip back if handle lifted really too high!! It has a sweet spot and feels well balanced when handle is just below waist height. Only usually used for transporting outboard through the dunes and onto beach, so the wide wheelbase is a real bonus over uneven sand and marram grass tufts!
Store the motor on a cheap sack trolley from Machine Mart - again modified of course 😀
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In another thread I recall you are considering a Rooteq trolley. Great piece of folding kit but here is a pic of mine with 26kg of 9.8 Tohatsu on it. Not that stable for anything much bulkier in my humble opinion. Really narrow wheelbase as well. Too stabilise the motor you should rest the skeg in the track of the trolley - but this scratches the hell out of the skeg!!
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Old 14 March 2016, 12:06   #34
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Very useful thanks. I can imagine with the Rooteq if the Suzuki started to fall sideways you'd not have enough control to stop it with that small handle... like the neat folding idea but bit worried.

Modding a Machine Mart type trolley seems a very good possibility.
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Old 14 March 2016, 13:43   #35
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I have no idea what the folding sack barrows are like Fenlander..but this one seems to get good reviews..some saying they move heavy cookers and fridges with them no problem. Perhaps it would be handy for you if it could fold ? If it strong enough ? Rated 80kg. There are numerous other folding sack trolleys from other suppliers too.

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I use the normal type like Chipko has posted in his photo . Its fine for me..my only issue are the inflatable wheels tend to rot after three years of use.. at least the two I have had in the past have perished.

I went to get the second one out the shed last week..and found a tyre flat ..blew it up..but its all cracked and leaking badly ..so time for another sack trolly. At 30 odd quid a shot.. its not a bank buster. ..I can afford the £10 a year ..before inflation

I submerge the trolley in salt water every time I use the boat.. so probably not such an issue if you donít shove it in the sea. I might try a folding one myself this year.

Anyone tried a folding sack trolley with success ? They are a lot cheaper than outboard trolleys
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I have a slightly different folding trolley bought for eldest daughter's uni accommodation to/fro trips. But I wouldn't trust my new Suzuki 20hp on it.

I really like your back to front setup Gurnard which enable a heavy outboard to be "hooked" onto the transom. The problem with that might be the cowling of these 20hp 4-strokes are huge and smooth... like a slippery fish.. and might not suit that back to front arrangement.

Once the outboard arrives (hopefully Thurs) I will try it on the old cheap trolley and see what I need to improve with a new one.
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Ok.. your thoughts are good enough for me Fenlander.. I will just get a normal sack trolley.

The mariner has a good solid cowl.. and the metal frame just below the cowl takes the weight when the trolley is laid flat. For me ..its a god send..I couldn't have a 50kg engine if I didn't do it that way. Every year as I age ..it gets a bit worse.. I might think of going back to a decent hardshell next year..on a mooring.

Got my boat in the water today..and spending a few days at Arisaig..as weather is glorious..no wind for a week. Its only the wee seago slat floor Im using though..its no problem carting over the shore
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Gurnard, I've got one of those folding sack trolleys, they're no good for outboards. As soon as you hook the outboard over the top bar, the trolley wants to fold up, and that was with a 2hp Yamaha.
It's great for moving the folded up F-rib round the garage though.
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Gurnard, I've got one of those folding sack trolleys, they're no good for outboards. As soon as you hook the outboard over the top bar, the trolley wants to fold up, and that was with a 2hp Yamaha.
It's great for moving the folded up F-rib round the garage though.
It might still not be strong enough to take the weight of an outboard but I've found with my fold up (then in on itself) trolley fitting a piece of 15mm copper tube between the wheels IE about 40cm ish makes a throwaway trolley into a more used one. The copper needs to be just the right length so it forces the wheels out slightly and stays in place. I've used it like this many times now and once in place the trolley feels useful. - an ali or steel pipe more robust
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Well now I have my Suzuki DF20 even at its modest 44kg I'm not spending out on a Rooteq to find it too tippy or flimsy... remember I was wondering if the Rooteq would double as a bow dolly for our longer pulls along the road on transom wheels.

So I'm keeping and slightly strengthening my existing folding outboard trolley which is the one shown in one image below.

To make a bow dolly I've just ordered the same trailer mover as Chipko and others have as in the other image below.

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Thinking of something like Chipko's timber mod for carrying his outboard (in his images post #30 above). I'll be rising up from the ball hitch A frame (ball to be removed) somehow with something that hooks the bow handle as I do with my hand.

But how to do that? Needs to be fairly strong but kind to the SIB fabric. Also needs to be able to swivel if possible for turns or at least hook on in a way that allows some twist.

Any ideas much appreciated.
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