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Old 15 April 2016, 03:08   #21
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Here is my set up. I'm 100 percent on my hitch carrier leaving my entire Suv empty. Also transporting the outboard upright is so much easier on my back too. Here is a video of my rig.

That looks so rong, the hitch is under so much strain with the outboard hanging of the back! Evan if you are in the weight limit of the hitch and basket you have extended it out giving that outboard more leverage as you bounce down the road.
Nice idea but how long have you been using it like that?
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Old 15 April 2016, 07:48   #22
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My 4Runner is rated for 5000 pounds. outboard, boat and gas can weigh in at 200 pounds. It is no more stress than when I tow my 4000 pound wakeboard boat. It barely squats the suspension. It's solid.
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Surely it's totally different?! Towing a boat/trailer/caravan etc is irrelevant as the weight is on the supporting wheels of the trailer - tow ball nose weight is minimal. My Landy will tow 5 tonnes easily too but that doesn't mean I would put a colossal weight all right out back hanging off the ball and what looks like a piece of bent 2" x 2" steel tubing??

50kg yes but not what you've done there why not just get a basic box trailer?
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My 4Runner is rated for 5000 pounds.
Isn't that lateral pull (i.e. towing) rather than downward or torqued/twisting/levering pull which the rack will create?

My ball-hitch / bike rack is rated for 100kg downward pressure...
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Old 15 April 2016, 08:36   #25
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If I'm not mistaken roof limit for many cars is about 50 kg.
I was under the impression most EU cars were 75KG on the roof. Certianly everything I have ever owned was rated to that. (but don't forget to subtract the weight of the roof bars!)



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My 4Runner is rated for 5000 pounds. outboard, boat and gas can weigh in at 200 pounds. It is no more stress than when I tow my 4000 pound wakeboard boat. It barely squats the suspension. It's solid.
I am talking "out of territory" here, so may have this totally wrong - but the towing weight & the hitchweight are two very different numbers. Most EU cars will be somewhere between 50- 75Kg hitch weight, even if it's rated for towing a 1.8 Ton trailer.

You guys in the US make a large family saloon in the UK look like a Go Kart compared to your trucks & SUVs so apologies if I have the wrong end of the proverbial stick here. It's just that a 2.2ton hitch weight does seem an awful lot, even for a chunky SUV. ..... Sounds more like the max trailer weight? (especially when compared to the average Landrover over here)
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My 4Runner is rated for 5000 pounds. outboard, boat and gas can weigh in at 200 pounds. It is no more stress than when I tow my 4000 pound wakeboard boat. It barely squats the suspension. It's solid.
To me it's all about the leverage you are putting on that bar coming out of the female hitch on the truck! End of the day give me a long lever and I could bend that hitch with out any problem!
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Nick you would lift the front wheels off the ground before you bent my hitch reciever. I would bet you a 1000 bucks and provide a pole for you to try if you lived close to me. Lol
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My hilux fitted with a Toyota bar is stamped 120kg max load on the bar
Landcruiser is 150kg max nose weight so no chance you could carry that on a UK vehicle
Even the motocross bike carriers are max 75kg
it's all about the vehicle dynamics.
we used to run 24 hour recovery business and had a new transit spectacle lift built which went for its first load test lifted a dead weight of 1 tonne off the ground at the rear the tester went to the front and easily lifted the front wheels off the ground we had to add weight to the front axle to get a test cert for the truck
Obviously your car isn't going to get a safety check after adding a bar carrier so you could turn your car into an accident waiting to happen.
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Nick you would lift the front wheels off the ground before you bent my hitch reciever. I would bet you a 1000 bucks and provide a pole for you to try if you lived close to me. Lol
I'm no so concerned with the hitch receiver it's the carrier attached to it, I think is your week point.
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This is the week point in my mind!
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