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Old 10 September 2015, 18:23   #51
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>>>I also really liked the small details that my boat lacks, like the inside handles close to the outboard, the handles in front, the straps for the tank and the tow rings. Those small details that can make your life so much easier...


Agreed it's those details that were part of what impressed me when I bought a new Honwave 3.5 alloy floor a few years ago... also the heavyweight transom & strong seat etc. It is very hard to argue with their quality for the price.

If you could manage a 20 (I can't really) it would be huge fun.
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Old 10 September 2015, 18:44   #52
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It's 39 kg vs 47 kg. My yamaha F9.9 fits nicely into my boot but I'm not sure the BF20 does.
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Old 11 September 2015, 04:22   #53
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I can't remember what engine you said you currently have, but I think it was a 9.9?
The size of the bf 20 is likely to be ok, it's the weight for me.

At 46.5KG it's not light, but a very capable engine for that boat. As I said my 3.8 planes quite happily with my mariner 9.9 with 2 people and I can manage that engine weight quite easily. Go and find one and try lifting it and try it for yourself.

Also, if you're currently using a 2 stroke, remember the 4 strokes have to be on 2 of their 4 sides (normally tiller down or one of the two sides), so you may lose more boot space because of this than you currently do with the 2 stroke which you probably store prop down.
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Old 11 September 2015, 05:40   #54
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>>>if you're currently using a 2 stroke, remember the 4 strokes have to be on 2 of their 4 sides (normally tiller down or one of the two sides), so you may lose more boot space because of this than you currently do with the 2 stroke which you probably store prop down.


That's a really good point. My travelling setup is SIB well packed just fitting widthways in the loadspace pushed up to the back of the rear seats then there is just room for the outboard to sit behind the SIB prop down with other stuff like wheels packed around it. With an outboard that had to lay on its side... and with the often bulkier hoods of 20hp 4-strokes... I don't think the tailgate would close fully.
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Old 11 September 2015, 05:48   #55
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I have a Yamaha F9.9 4 stroke. I can manage it just fine alone and it fits nicely inside my Megane's boot. Weights 40 kg.

The BF20 is a bit bigger and weights 47 kg. I think I can manage the weight but I'm not sure I can fit it inside my trunk.

I have owned two 4 strokers so far so I am used to being careful when storing them. Only had a problem one time when a mate pick up my F2.5 for me and put it on the ground in the wrong position. Leaked a lot of oil so I had to buy some more. The only problem was the white smoke during the following days.
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That's a really good point. My travelling setup is SIB well packed just fitting widthways in the loadspace pushed up to the back of the rear seats then there is just room for the outboard to sit behind the SIB prop down with other stuff like wheels packed around it. With an outboard that had to lay on its side... and with the often bulkier hoods of 20hp 4-strokes... I don't think the tailgate would close fully.
The plan is to use the boot just for the outboard, gas tank, bravo pump (which I don't own yet), life jackets, alongside with some more gear. The boat is either going on top of the car (folded) or I'm folding the seats and putting everything in the trunk.
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My outboard weights 52kg (mariner 25hp 2 stroke) Three years ago.. I could lift it but I would not like to carry it far..or lean over a boot lid.. it means bending my back to put it in a boot. I was used to moving 2ft by 3ft concrete slabs around then.

Im three years old..and 60 years of age.. and struggle lifting it. I can still use it no problem .. as I transport it on a sack trolley ..and slid it into my vehicle..which is like a van floor at the rear. But dont ask me to lift it
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I'm 25. When I'm 60 I plan to have a pilothouse or a center console, or whatever exists at the time.
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I'm not going to tell you not to but lifting 48KG of honwave T38-IE2 to head height and possibly into a roof box is going to require two people and isn't going to be pleasant to do, but certainly not impossible.

I'm 28 and last May I slipped three discs in my neck and had no feeling in my face with shooting pains down my right arm for 9 months with incredibly pain in my neck from lifting the 9.9 2 stroke out the boot of my car awkwardly. It was a very scary time and still get electric shock feelings now. It was this incident that made me get a trailer. It's also changed the way I look at lifting and doing things.

Be careful and don't strain yourself.
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I'm 25. When I'm 60 I plan to have a pilothouse or a center console, or whatever exists at the time.

Thats the plan of most young boaters..and I was the same at 25.

I was lucky..I had access to yachts and even hard shell motor boats in mid life.. but as I get older.. I find Im getting lighter and lighter boats as the years go on.

Different if you have a mooring though ..but when retired.. and I retired early to live my life for myself instead of giving it to an employer... who had only an interest in me as to how much money I could make them.

I dont have that kind of money..nor would I really want a big boat and mooring now anyhoo.

I think most folks plans and dreams..evolve and change ..all their days .. life life to the full ..thats the best way
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