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Old 03 June 2011, 12:49   #11
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look here.

PROWAVE INFLATABLES FOR UK INFLATABLE BOAT SALES, TENDERS,DINGHIES ALL AT GREAT PRICES!

i know they are not very well know but i had one the, 320 airdeck and am about to buy another one of them, the 380 ali deck.

they come with the launch wheels and seat and seat bags thrown in and are reasonably priced.
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Old 04 June 2011, 04:37   #12
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Engine has to be *four* stroke and portable by me.
For a given horsepower, a 2 stroke will be more portable. But I guess you've taken that into consideration

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Thinking a 2.7m Honwave or similar equivilent Zodiac etc.
I would go a bit bigger. Something like 3.1m or 3.4m would give you a lot more boat, but not much more to carry.

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Also put off by reading many topics re' the Honwave floor needs the 100 Bravo pump and the floor pressure is critical...
It doesn't need a 100 pump, a 20 Quicksilver stirrup pump will do the job perfectly well. The absolute floor pressure isn't really critical, it's just critical that you get it up to around the right pressure.

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Have also read that difference between a 6HP and a 8HP is quite a lot in weight - again one easy to carry the other bordering on not?! Is the 6HP enough? For coastal use it would mostly be just me and the 8 year old.
Go with the biggest one you're comfortably carrying. Maybe consider a 2 stroke?

My preference, having owned a variety of different SIBs and outboards, is for an airdeck of some sort if you'll be packing it away each time you use it. For the use you describe a flat air floor with an inflatable keel will be fine. From what you have said, something like a Quicksilver 310 or 340 Airdeck would do well. Those Prowave's sound like a pretty good deal too.
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Old 04 June 2011, 13:20   #13
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Chaps - thanks for all the advice. I'm quite impressed by the Excel that Pete flagged up (the flat/reinforced/replacable air floor, SS fittings, two seats etc) - thinking as well that the 2.9m might be the optimium length. Engine has to be four stroke and umming and ahhing about a 6hp or 8hp...

Went over to Newhaven today and popped in a large chandlers there to check sizes of SIB's- no names mentioned but my wife and I were truly flabbergasted by the surly and totally offish attitude of the 'salemen'...really, really bad.

Anyway, later down at Seaford saw two young guys launching a 2.7m Quicksilver - one of them shouldering a 10hp four stroke down the beach!

A bit younger than me but I reckon I could handle an 8hp the short way we would need carry it.

So, looks like a 2.9m SIB and a 8hp or so is the likely set-up but once more I would welcome advice on the real world difference an 8 makes over a 5/6hp?
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So, looks like a 2.9m SIB and a 8hp or so is the likely set-up but once more I would welcome advice on the real world difference an 8 makes over a 5/6hp?
Think about the weights and the likely usage.

With the family on, an 8hp won't plane the boat.
With one up, a 6hp should.
In many of the manufacturers ranges, the 4/5/6s weigh the same, the 8/10s are heavier (40kg ), the 15s heavier again.

In your case, maybe the 6hp with built in tank, frees up space, easy to carry, not gonna plane with the family anyway, unless you go 10hp and maybe not even then...

Me, I'd stick my engine on there...
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If I could get over my anti-2 stroke bias - something like the rig below would have been awesome and a real flyer - bit of a hefty premium on it due to the lovely Yam 15HP though. A brand new 3.2 Honwave is under 900.

Honwave T32-IE '06+Yamaha 15hp 2 Stroke 2005+Bowbag | eBay UK

Does a 2 stroke 15 really only weigh 34KG??

Lockieboi - got any decent pics or more feedback on your 3.2 Prowave please?

At the end of the day I would probably have to settle for what I can find for sale as I'm buying secondhand - I would consider a new boat but seperate second hand engine but they don't seem so easy to find...
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Hi mate here's some pics.

They bought out a new design this year so the colours are slightly different.
Shame you weren't after a sib a week ago, just sold it.
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Hi mate here's some pics.

They bought out a new design this year so the colours are slightly different.
Shame you weren't after a sib a week ago, just sold it.
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If I could get over my anti-2 stroke bias - something like the rig below would have been awesome and a real flyer - bit of a hefty premium on it due to the lovely Yam 15HP though. A brand new 3.2 Honwave is under 900.

Honwave T32-IE '06+Yamaha 15hp 2 Stroke 2005+Bowbag | eBay UK

Does a 2 stroke 15 really only weigh 34KG??

Lockieboi - got any decent pics or more feedback on your 3.2 Prowave please?

At the end of the day I would probably have to settle for what I can find for sale as I'm buying secondhand - I would consider a new boat but seperate second hand engine but they don't seem so easy to find...
the 15 yam and the 9.9 are almost identical and you can easily mod the 9.9 to be a 15, that may open up some more choices for you when you are searching.
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Thanks Hugh, I may defintiely have to consider a 2 stroke after comments on here and a few hours this weekend looking back over similar topics.

The 2 stroke 9.9HP could be a great partner to the 3.2 and the option to convert to 15 if a bigger boat/more power desired is handy. Where can I find more on this conversion and does it apply to a specific model? Have read the Tohatsu is also convertable??

Problem with all this is you start out thinking a nice light, easily launched economical 2.7 with 5/6 hp is ideal, then you realise a 3.2 with 8 or 10 hp is better, before you know it the 3.6 with a 15 is on the cards and you're a long way away from the light/cheap/easy to carry original idea........
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You should have a look at the Zodiac Activ-v 3.1m airdeck secondhand with a Tohatsu 9.8hp 2 stroke and a set of genuine Zodiac launch wheels.

The wholly grail.

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