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Old 03 January 2004, 09:19   #1
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Trailer modification

I have a 6 metre Valiant, and am considering buying a second hand American trailer (one under every Bayliner that gets shipped to Spain) The trailer is very strong, well sprung and will take a 7.5 metre boat. However I need to launch and retrieve from a slip which ends in about 4-6 inches of water and then drops off altogether.
The trailer is currently the type that has two fabric covered parallel boards and is therefore unsuitable for anything other than an immersed retrieval, (not possible) or a lift out, (inconvenient and expensive.) Am I daft to attempt this?, if not, where can I go to get legs/rollers/brackets etc.?
The trailer will cost 350 Euros max, and has never been used.
Any advice appreciated, even where to get a reasonable build trailer in Spain
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Bayliner makes their own trailers primarly as you describe to be immersed. It is not easy to convert and if you have to buy from Indespension the rollers and mechanism and have it fitted and modified at garage it will probably cost you more than buying original rolling trailer from Indespension, SBS or whatever the brands you can choose from in the UK. You could contact the Bayliner dealer in the UK the Windermere Aqautic up in Windermere and see whether they have retro fitted pack on the trailers they have been taking on their Capri“s although I think they have imported them on special brackets and source trailers locally.
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The Bayliners shipped into this country are sent out from Windermere on SBS trailers. I don't know of any convertion kits as you can order a roller trailer for your Bayliner as an optional extra and we have never yet converted a trailer for any of our Bayliner customers.
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Old 03 January 2004, 10:32   #4
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thats because unless it comes from the states on a eu spec trailer ie brake systen auto reverse and mechanicaly operated its not legal , also isnt it more than 7,6 wide , and dont forget in spain your trailer needs its log book !!!!!!
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Old 03 January 2004, 18:04   #5
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Depending on the kg of your boat. I can get you a brand new trailer roller coaster, swininging cradle trailer for not much over £1000.

You could end up spending not far off this converting the Bin Liner Trailer.
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Old 03 January 2004, 18:37   #6
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Taking aboard RIva's comments and if you still wanted to go ahead then I don't think it would cost you much money to do.

Firstly do not get any swinging arm or Roller Coaster parts from Indespension. Their design is flawed and leads to failure of the roller retention assembly resulting in a gouge out of your Hull when recovering.

Design what you want for the trailer and go find a welder and buy 32 Flight case castors for about a fiver each to act as your rollers. Attach them to the Carpet covered beds for an easy solution


Is this work going to be done in Spain or UK.
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cant say i would reccomend sbs trailer roller bunks either. Theyre rollers are held on with spring clips as against split pins which means if you launch and recover in a very tidal (sideways) area the twist of the boat as you slew onto the trailer kindly removes the rollers and then the roller framework damages the bottom of your boat. In one season i lost 15 rollers in total and i hated the after recover swim to fetch my rolers. I ended drilling and split pinning the rollers myself as sbs didnt see the problem
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Old 04 January 2004, 06:40   #8
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rouge wave i think you may put yourself in the shit with that comment, a design is only flaued when it failes and has been correctly looked after , rollers popping off due to pins or capa comeing away is not a design flew not when its a few years old ??? its just like wheel bearings all the wingers about bearings and brakes if you service right every dip no problem its just like leaving the boat with no care for a few months it pays you back 10 fold
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Old 04 January 2004, 13:51   #9
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Whilst I freely admit that doing trailer maintenance doesn't give me a stiffy I accept that it's gotta be done and get on with it in this case it's not down to me being flakey. The first problem occured when the trailer ws 9 months old

The design is flawed because of the shape of the extrusion they use for the roller axles. Out of interest what shape do you prefer for an Axle, round works for me. I am presuming that you speak with knowledge of the indispension system if so please explain why they chose that shape of extrusion

What would you suggest was a good service routine with your trailer for every dip
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THE ROUND NYLON BUSH MAKES IT ROUND that fits in the roller as you will know nylon on aliminium alowes in built material lubrication for designd less friction. it depend unbraked trailer gerase cheak 2 to3 set of bearings a year , braked trailer well lets not rnli it and strip evey time its wet but evevr 3 times bearings and drums off clean and maintain , set of cables per season 3 sets bearings per season no matter how many miles its done store with drums off although since the eu law on brake material altered last year now there is no iorn in the friction material they might not stick as much yes just a little knoelage
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