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Old 08 November 2015, 02:58   #1
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To brake or not to brake - that is the question???

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I will be picking up a 5.5m the end of the week and the final question is should the trailer be braked?

I tow on a 2L Insignia with a tow option of 1600kg braked and 750kg unbraked. Looking at the build I have;

Engine 150
Console / seating 95
Battery 18
Fuel 75
Anchor 15
Trailer 100
Hull 250

=703kg total (before electrics)

Which leaves 47 kgs for kit.

I'd rather stay with an unbraked due to less moving parts ad the issues we have with the dive club's braked trailer. However is it too close to the limit? Should I be playing save and going braked which will cover the risk of extra kit on board or will the 40 kgs I have spare be ok?

Your thoughts as always appreciated.

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Old 08 November 2015, 03:12   #2
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I've towed more than 40kg of water before by accident.

Those are dry weights at manufacture.

I'd suggest its a weigh bridge job to see what it all really weighs. I suspect your margin is not as much as 40kg.
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Old 08 November 2015, 03:13   #3
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You could put the battery, anchor & accessories in your car,that would take you well under 750. Do you need to have the fuel in the boat for the journey !
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Personally I would go with Unbraked for that. Also depends on the amount of towing you gonna do etc etc and also drive the car with some mechanical sympathy.
if you do short journeys with Braked (as you have found out) they will never dry out and will sit n fester in their own rust!
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Old 08 November 2015, 03:26   #5
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mechanical sympathy??
It's a fleet car

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The weight of the boat shouldn't matter. It's the weight that the trailers rated too (from a legal view) If the trailer is only rated to 750kg you won't need brakes. If it's rated higher they should have them already fitted.

If the boats heavier than 750kg you'd be overloading the trailer unless rated higher.

That's how I'd have thought it anyway!!

What's your trailer rated too?
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Ha Ha. def no to braked then.. !
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The weight of the boat shouldn't matter. It's the weight that the trailers rated too (from a legal view) If the trailer is only rated to 750kg you won't need brakes. If it's rated higher they should have them already fitted.

If the boats heavier than 750kg you'd be overloading the trailer unless rated higher.

That's how I'd have thought it anyway!!

What's your trailer rated too?
The non braked trailer is rated for the boat - its coming with it. The issue is I can only tow 750kg total weight which includes everything behind the tow ball on an unbraked before I go for a braked trailer.
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I understand now!! Personally I wouldn't bother with brakes either! Just pack car & boat with car and I can't see any issues
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As has already been said, when you've got it load it up as normal & take it to a local weighbridge. You'll then know for certain & shouldn't get a nasty surprise if stopped & weighed.
I had mine weighed at a local 'civic amenities' site (aka local tip & for anyone in the Leicester area that's the one at Whetstone).
Do a Google to find yours & give them a ring to check they have a weighbridge.
IIRC it was less than a fiver & I was given a signed certificate which lives in the car just in case.

The law says you cannot tow an unbraked trailer that weighs more than 750kgs. Above 750kg it must have brakes.
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