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Old 23 January 2012, 06:24   #31
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ROG, No I meant says differently from Peter(Boats&Outboards) and the "extrapolation" of the DVLA rules for small lorries and minibusses.
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I just called DVLA and asked if a provisional B licence holder could tow trailers which fitted into the B towing rules under the usual surpervisional laws and they said NO

There is a rule which states that provisional B licence holders CANNOT tow trailers of any kind
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ROG, No I meant says differently from Peter(Boats&Outboards) and the "extrapolation" of the DVLA rules for small lorries and minibusses.
Sorry mate I have lost where you are coming from ....

Could you present your query again please
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Sorry mate I have lost where you are coming from ....

Could you present your query again please
Its OK I think we are in agreement:

- Provisional car license - can't tow trailers at all
- "Full" post 1997 car licence can tow "large" trailers if supervised by someone who is entitled to drive that car and trailer combination themselves and has held the license to do so for at least 3 years, not on the motorway, must be insured and must display L plates.
- There is some conflicting information on the web, and if you want to be certain safest option is to ask DVLA.
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Dubrus,

Give this guy a try Jim Mair Driver Training Ltd He is based just off the A77 at top end of Kilmarnock.

I sat my test with him 4 or 5 years ago and he was very good I got a deal which was through the agricultural college which was part funding courses if it was required for business and 2 days training plus my test was £300 (not sure if these are still available or not).

The test was reasonably basic and I only used one days training, I would recommend doing some training however even a couple of hours just to get to know when they expect you to look in mirrors, the reversing manoeuvre you are asked to do which is simple but Jim showed me a couple of techniques which made it even easier (more to do with his particular trailer than anything else).
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Its OK I think we are in agreement:

- Provisional car license - can't tow trailers at all
- "Full" post 1997 car licence can tow "large" trailers if supervised by someone who is entitled to drive that car and trailer combination themselves and has held the license to do so for at least 3 years, not on the motorway, must be insured and must display L plates.
- There is some conflicting information on the web, and if you want to be certain safest option is to ask DVLA.
A B+E provisional is allowed on a motorway

One of the B+E DSA test routes near me has a motorway section on it
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Dubrus,

Give this guy a try Jim Mair Driver Training Ltd He is based just off the A77 at top end of Kilmarnock.

I sat my test with him 4 or 5 years ago and he was very good I got a deal which was through the agricultural college which was part funding courses if it was required for business and 2 days training plus my test was £300 (not sure if these are still available or not).

The test was reasonably basic and I only used one days training, I would recommend doing some training however even a couple of hours just to get to know when they expect you to look in mirrors, the reversing manoeuvre you are asked to do which is simple but Jim showed me a couple of techniques which made it even easier (more to do with his particular trailer than anything else).
thanks for that, gave them a call- £518- :-( nearly 200 quid more than Glasgow.

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I asked on another site and got this definitive answer in relation to a B provisional and towing under B licence rules

Towing with a provisional B licence?? (Page 1) / ADI Forum / Driver Training Today

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The appropriate law is in the Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations 1999.
Conditions attached to provisional licences
16.—(1) A provisional licence of any class is granted subject to the conditions prescribed in relation to a licence of that class in the following paragraphs.
(2) Subject to the following paragraphs, the holder of a provisional licence shall not drive a vehicle of a class which he is authorised to drive by virtue of that licence—
(a)otherwise than under the supervision of a qualified driver who is present with him in or on the vehicle,
(b)unless a distinguishing mark in the form set out in Part 1 of Schedule 4 is displayed on the vehicle in such manner as to be clearly visible to other persons using the road from within a reasonable distance from the front and from the back of the vehicle, or
(c)while it is being used to draw a trailer.
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(5) The condition specified in paragraph (2)(c) shall not apply to the holder of a provisional licence authorising the driving of a vehicle of a class included in category B+E, C+E, D+E or F, in relation to motor vehicles of that class.

This can be found here; http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1999 … on/16/made
If you check the plastic and paper counterpart of a UK basic Cat B provisional it should not have Cat B+E shown.
The date 1999 doesn't mean that there has been a change to this particular regulation, trailers have been forbidden to basic learners since before i started to drive, but the regulations did have to be modified back when the category B+E first started when we changed our old vehicle groups to the Euro categories.
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