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Old 21 November 2013, 14:47   #71
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ive just got b+e on my licence because i wrongly believed that i would be legal based on the combined weight rule. it is always based on plated maximums as actual weights vary way too much - even down to how much fuel you have in the car! blueboy, i fear that you are arguing this til the death so as to convince yourself that you are legal (i used to) but i think that you too need to pass your b+e for towing behind your landy. it is a waste of money (and a lot of money too), and no i dont think its entirely right, but as somebody said already, the government is there to fleece you at every stage.
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Old 21 November 2013, 14:52   #72
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Just spotted a slight error. If you had a 750kg braked trailer (unusual, but they do exist) then it could still be legal even if the MAM of the trailer was more than half the unladen weight of the towing vehicle.
True. Not quite sure how to incorporate that!

Gramas, just take the test. You'll be legal and won't have to worry if you get a bigger boat.
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Old 21 November 2013, 15:07   #73
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haha, it was the thought of a bigger boat that made my mind up!
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As I said way back, forget the weight and take the test, you won't have to worry if the ash tray is full or the misses has too much gear on lol we spent thousands at work putting younger drivers throu the test to stay on the right side of the rozzers.
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Old 23 November 2013, 13:48   #75
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Just going over things as costs for 2days training +test 440
Will sit it after Christmas but in meantime, how do I legally lower my braked trailer rating to 750kg ?
If stopped by vosa if I lowered it can they fine me?
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Old 23 November 2013, 13:55   #76
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Can't check trailers MAM til few weeks time but here's pics give folk idea or they may know rough size of its mam?

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You need a new plate and I suspect the official way is to get the manufacturer to supply a new plate. Some manufacturers will have been asked numerous times, others may think this a very odd request.

But since I've had at least 2 trailers that were too old to ever have plates with weights I'm not 100% sure! 1 of them was home made so never had any plate.

NTTA - Trailer Law - Trailer Maximum Weights

My current little box trailer has no plate (almost certainly home built) although the hitch is only rated to 500kg and is stamped as such. That said the wheels are only rated to 395kg I think and I doubt even filled with lead it would weight that much!

By Christmas time it will be more like triggers broom though! Most of it will have been rebuilt!
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Hallmark trailers are an indespension brand. Indespension are familiar with down rating trailers - give them a call.

Not sure what happens if you want to "up rate" it back at a later date. Can you just plop the old plate back on>?

It looks like its maybe a pre-decessor of the current 1.3HE which has a GVW of 1100 and a load of about 800kg.

If you down rate to 750kg and your trailer weighs 300kg that only leaves 450kg for the boat which seems quite light?
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I'm sure I've seen someone suggest this was an Osprey before when Osprey were part of Northern Diver, Don't know if thats true but a current 4.5m Osprey Kestrel comes in at 280kg dry with no engine. Modern 4 smoke 90HP Yamie is in the 170kg range. That puts you over before you add fuel, anchor, etc
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Am I right tho that it's not its actual weight but plated weight or if stopped by vosa etc they would weigh me n if over 3500kg I'd be fined
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