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Old 26 November 2013, 14:54   #101
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VOSA could do to produce a flowchart similar to the one earlier in this thread, that would make it more transparant.
What is this step by step wizzard: https://www.gov.uk/towing-rules not helpful enough? It strikes me its better than a flowchart because rather than trying to twist your answer to get to a yes, or ranting about what ifs, it steps you through the answers that apply to YOU.

Oh, and I got to that link by typing "what can I tow" into google...
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Old 26 November 2013, 15:01   #102
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Yes used that poly and thought I was ok but after hearing experienced folk on hear I have checked and I'm not,
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What is this step by step wizzard: https://www.gov.uk/towing-rules not helpful enough? It strikes me its better than a flowchart because rather than trying to twist your answer to get to a yes, or ranting about what ifs, it steps you through the answers that apply to YOU.

Oh, and I got to that link by typing "what can I tow" into google...
Still needs some tightening up:

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You can already tow trailers up to 750kg.

You can also tow heavier trailers if the fully laden trailer weight isnít more than the unladen vehicle weight. The combined weight of trailer and vehicle canít be more than 3,500kg.
'Combined weight' is too ambiguous - it needs to specify combined MAM's. It's small things like this that lead to confusion.
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Personally, I think the law doesn't go far enough. 90% of people I see towing trailers are so bad at it that they need extra training,yet they don't think they do and shout loudly that they know what they're doing.

None so blind etc...

'Been doing it for years mate, never had an accident'

'It'll be OK'

'It won't happen to me'

Etc.
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'Combined weight' is too ambiguous - it needs to specify combined MAM's. It's small things like this that lead to confusion.
Agreed.
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Personally, I think the law doesn't go far enough.
I agree in principle .. but in the current climate where police now dont operate on simple cases of law breaking and admonishment .. thats a dangerous position.

Its clear we now live a target driven regime. TV last week (the show eludes me) showed a cop program that had a female officer who highlighted the 'credits' system where officers are rewarded for as many collars as they can get.

With budget cuts .. constabularies everywhere are maximising their take .. sadly I feel this is also punishing those who 'believe' they were doing the best they can.

Mcd22 mentioned two types of cop .. theres also two types of VOSA guys .. some that have some sort of discretion, and some that clearly dont .. Ive met them both .. but as I get older .. the never ending changes of regulations create a cynical devide, of those of us, who are trying to do our best .. against those who can enforce the law .. just because they can ..... I pretty much think almost every one this forum does their utmost to abide by the law ..
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I fully understand that I need to sit test to tow rib but how would I be on towing this with camping gear in with the navara

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Old 29 November 2013, 12:28   #108
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Presumably it is unbraked and weighs < 750 kg fully laden? if so you are fine.
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Presumably it is unbraked and weighs < 750 kg fully laden? if so you are fine.
If its Unbraked weighs less than half the weight of the towing car & its fitted with a safety chain .
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Can't see it being any more than that
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