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Old 12 February 2007, 19:44   #51
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Isn't there a direct link between transport use and cost in the price of fuel. The more you use it the more you pay.
What I said was a "direct link between each journey and what it costs". The problem with fuel taxation is that people just tend to wince when they pay for their petrol, then carry on driving regardless. I know I do, and I'm sure I'd drive less if there was per mile charging.
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With regards water meters why not stick the knife in to hard working nuclear families whilst your at it.
OK, and lets have flat rate pricing for electricity and gas too. And at the supermarket -- one price for however much you put into your shopping trolley. Let's just pay a monthly fee for all the petrol that we want too.

I disagree with most of the non-boating issues that you post about, so I don't expect us to have the same views on this either!

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OK, and lets have flat rate pricing for electricity and gas too. And at the supermarket -- one price for however much you put into your shopping trolley. Let's just pay a monthly fee for all the petrol that we want too.

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Besides being a rather ridiculous answer. I think most families pay a sort of flat rate with regards the utilities. The Utlility company looks at what you should be using and sets a monthly fee, if your on a monthly package. In my case it seems to bear no resemblance to my usage as it seems like a savings scheme without any interest for me, only for the company that can be bothered to check my meter once per year.
The supermarket shopping trolley is rather Dale Winton. Wish I could do that.

With regards disagreeing with each other. Isn't that what a democracy is about
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Looks like its a dead duck anyway.

Plans to introduce road charging to cut congestion will be scrapped by Transport Secretary Douglas Alexander unless the country backs the scheme, it has been reported.

Mr Alexander told the Daily Mirror: "Unless motorists and families can see the benefits of bringing in a national road pricing system then it simply won't happen."

Trouble is we can't see the benefits. It might be the right answer but Labour have ridden the Tax horse to the limit and we're fed up of it.

My answer is to make sure that all the money we give to private coach and train companies provides a 21st century Britain with the transport it needs and pays for.

Wait for the Olympics. I have a feeling that come 2012 and the summer of the Olympics private transport will be banned from London. Just so everything runs smoothly. Unless your an MP that is. John Prescott starring in the Red corner.
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..The problem with fuel taxation is that people just tend to wince when they pay for their petrol, then carry on driving regardless. I know I do, and I'm sure I'd drive less if there was per mile charging.
Does that mean per mile charging would limit your life and you wouldn't travel or do you mean you'd find a cheaper way to travel?

The grump I have with charging is that it is uncreative. If the aim, as I understand it, is to limit future road congestion there are all sorts of initiatives which could be employed. Taxation is essentially revenue raising and seen to be just that no matter how it is disguised.

As an illustration, similarly and slightly related, a few days ago it was reported that tolls on the Forth and Tay bridges were to stay. The peak time congestion at these bridges is largely, but I would agree not entirely, caused by stopping every vehicle at a barrier to pay. But I saw and heard a minister claiming, as justification for keeping the tolls, that if the barrier wasn't there, the congestion would increase. This, despite there being a change a good while back to only charging in one direction to alleviate congestion on that side of the carriageway, we're supposed to believe. Who can he think he is kidding?
At £1 per crossing, there would have been a big loss in annual revenue, end of story.
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Does that mean per mile charging would limit your life and you wouldn't travel or do you mean you'd find a cheaper way to travel?
I don't think it need limit anyone's life any more than punitive fuel tax does, but it would certainly focus the mind!

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So, erm, how is the weather in Swansea this week?

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