Land Rover Freelander 2.0 TD4

Nauti Buoy · 29 January 2007, 10:58

Thought I'd post this on here on behalf of a friend. It is in superb condition.

Full spec as a PDF file.

Aidan · 29 January 2007, 19:33

Hi Nauti Boy,
I hear that the last freelander was a dog and very troublesome.
New one is a real beauty.
Do you people get any reduction going for commersial class.
You would not believe what they do here.
They strip out the back seats and destroy whilst blanking out the back windows ion the side (in case it may be safer!!!) and weld plate to floor so only two seats allowed.
This reduces the VRT (VEhicle Registration tax AKA Importation Tax aka Illegal under EU rules) that we have to pay. Is it any wonder we can be a bit backward over here. I hasten to add that these were all British ideas that were left with when the tide went out.....

codprawn · 30 January 2007, 11:59

It's only some of the petrol engines on the Freelander that used to cause trouble.

eupa · 05 February 2007, 15:59

Codders - what is the source of the V6 petrol egine in the freelander?

jonathan

codprawn · 05 February 2007, 16:56

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Originally Posted by eupa

Codders - what is the source of the V6 petrol egine in the freelander?

jonathan

It is Rover's own K series - a very good engine actually.

The new one uses a 3.2L V6 which I suspect is Jaguar?Ford sourced.

BogMonster · 05 February 2007, 19:29

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Originally Posted by codprawn

It is Rover's own K series - a very good engine actually.

The new one uses a 3.2L V6 which I suspect is Jaguar?Ford sourced.

Freelander 2 uses a Volvo engine I think, and I believe it is an inline six not a V6 though how they fitted that into the engine bay would be interesting to see!

Personally I think the K series engines are crap but that's just IMHO based on the fact that lots of them seem to go wrong expensively and when you take them to bits it looks like it was designed by somebody who knew more about AutoCAD than sensible engineering. Again just IMHO

osprey__viper · 05 February 2007, 20:08

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Originally Posted by codprawn

It is Rover's own K series - a very good engine actually.

The new one uses a 3.2L V6 which I suspect is Jaguar?Ford sourced.

The Freelander 2 has two types of engine. The petrol 3.2 inline 6 and a 4 cylinder 2.2 diesel. Both engines are penned from the joint technical collaboration between Ford and Peugeot. Volvo being part of the premier auto group has also had some input.

The new FL2 is a world apart from FL1. The ride quality and handling are superb and with the new 'e' diff on the 4x4 system and the addition of terrain response it's also pretty good off road too

Aidan · 05 February 2007, 20:14

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Originally Posted by codprawn

It is Rover's own K series - a very good engine actually.

The new one uses a 3.2L V6 which I suspect is Jaguar?Ford sourced.

You must have family working for Rover Codders.

They never had an engine that worked. Best thing they ever did for the motor industry is Shut down. I wouldnt take a gift of one. Bags of shite
The Ford Jaguar engine 3.2 Ltr Turbo and twin turbo is now used in the Range Rover and this combined with the new TDV8, are Honeys.
In fact with the New Aston Martins and teh Range Rover Range, as in freelander 2, Range Rover Sport and Range ROver with TDV8 will set a new and possibly useful standard in British Motoring.

At last.... and Dont mention the Mini....

osprey__viper · 05 February 2007, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Aidan

You must have family working for Rover Codders.

They never had an engine that worked. Best thing they ever did for the motor industry is Shut down. I wouldnt take a gift of one. Bags of shite
The Ford Jaguar engine 3.2 Ltr Turbo and twin turbo is now used in the Range Rover and this combined with the new TDV8, are Honeys.
In fact with the New Aston Martins and teh Range Rover Range, as in freelander 2, Range Rover Sport and Range ROver with TDV8 will set a new and possibly useful standard in British Motoring.

At last.... and Dont mention the Mini....

What 3.2 ltr turbo??? 2.7 TDV6 single turbo (ex jag s-type minus a turbo) used in Discovery 3 and Range Rover sport. Ford Peugeot TDV8 3.6ltr twin turbo used in Range Rover and Range Rover sport along with 4.2 V8 petrol supercharged and 4.4ltr V8 normally aspirated.

And yes not only am I an instructor for Land Rover experience I now also work for the worlds largest LR dealer selling em too

For what it's worth, every 'K' series engine I came across that was fitted to a Caterham / Westfield 7 was allways most reliable

codprawn · 06 February 2007, 00:34

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Originally Posted by Aidan

You must have family working for Rover Codders.

They never had an engine that worked. Best thing they ever did for the motor industry is Shut down. I wouldnt take a gift of one. Bags of shite
The Ford Jaguar engine 3.2 Ltr Turbo and twin turbo is now used in the Range Rover and this combined with the new TDV8, are Honeys.
In fact with the New Aston Martins and teh Range Rover Range, as in freelander 2, Range Rover Sport and Range ROver with TDV8 will set a new and possibly useful standard in British Motoring.

At last.... and Dont mention the Mini....

Not at all - just have owned quite a few and they have been a damn site better than a lot of other cars - people tend to compare them with the wrong competitors. People laugh at the old BL cars and forget just how bad the other cars of that era were. Give me a Rover over a similar Ford any day. We ran a few 420 diesels on our fleet and they were abused to hell. No faults at all - we still have one as a backup that has done 175,000 miles and is STILL as good to drive as a Passat!!!

You mention crap engines - the DOHC 2L Montego engine was fantastic - the L Series diesel in the 420 was an awesome engine - the K series seems to work well enough in the Lotus Elise. The 200/300tdi is a great engine and the TD5 has proved pretty reliable as well.

Then of course there is the legendry Rover v8 - awesome!!!

eupa · 06 February 2007, 08:06

Then of course there is the legendry Rover v8 - awesome!!!

quite true codders - but derived from a GM cadillaic. imported in the 50's - i,e you were still a suckling kid then!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I was sent to a Jesuit scholl at 11.

jonathan

Jono · 06 February 2007, 08:14

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Originally Posted by eupa

[B][I].....the 50's - i,e you were still a suckling kid then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suspect yer somewhat older than his Dad, Jonathan..... "suckling kid in the 50's". ..

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BogMonster · 06 February 2007, 09:30

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Originally Posted by osprey__viper

The new FL2 is a world apart from FL1. The ride quality and handling are superb and with the new 'e' diff on the 4x4 system and the addition of terrain response it's also pretty good off road too

In price as well as in everything else!

I agree, I drove the two that Autocar brought down here in October last year. They were fantastic on the road and really surprised me off it, though I would not have bought either vehicle after they had finished! Having said not all that long ago that I would probably never buy another Freelander after six months with a Td4, I was all ready to seriously think about replacing my Discovery 2 with one, and then I saw the price...

eupa · 06 February 2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Jono

I suspect yer somewhat older than his Dad, Jonathan..... "suckling kid in the 50's". ..

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Well at least I have all my hair, Jono....

Whats happened to Kennet these days. We are not even allowed to rant anymore on this site?????. My boats in dock, what else do you want me to do.? Cant even heckle codders anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway-- there ine one thing positive with youth.... theY ALL get old..

best regards

Jonathan

codprawn · 06 February 2007, 17:57

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Originally Posted by eupa

Then of course there is the legendry Rover v8 - awesome!!!

quite true codders - but derived from a GM cadillaic. imported in the 50's - i,e you were still a suckling kid then!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I was sent to a Jesuit scholl at 11.

jonathan

It was a design rejected by GM because they had problems with it they couldn't cure. Rover fixed it and turned it into the awesome creation it became.

And talking of Rover they were the first ever to put a gas turbine in a car!!!

Aidan · 06 February 2007, 21:17

O knew I would find something emotive for you codders.

Brit shit cars suck....... Aston Martin DB excepted I am sure, the rest is shit really it is shit. The range of range Rover, I feel i can except at this stage,

It was equally crap with previous engines... and as for BL, I thought we were talking about cars... not dinkys,,,,

Sorry if I offend..... God it was real crap....

tinker · 06 February 2007, 23:16

Incidently the FL2 is built on the same BIW line as the jag x type (underbody),and remember from Austin/BL came the mini, wasnt that enough....?, transverse engine and all, changed the way cars are built
What is Ireland good at potatoes and Del....? cars

oh and dancing, drinking

, building roads(well causing traffic jams) living in caravans and.... (actually it sounds quite nice, may book a week or two in the summer)

codprawn · 07 February 2007, 02:18

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Originally Posted by Aidan

O knew I would find something emotive for you codders.

Brit shit cars suck....... Aston Martin DB excepted I am sure, the rest is shit really it is shit. The range of range Rover, I feel i can except at this stage,

It was equally crap with previous engines... and as for BL, I thought we were talking about cars... not dinkys,,,,

Sorry if I offend..... God it was real crap....

The Range Rover had the V8 engine from the start so wouldn't say it had shit engines!!! It also had all round coil springs and disk brakes - as early as 1970 - way ahead of the Japs - some of them STILL use leaf springs - as do the Yanks!!!

Wouldn't describe any of the Lotus range as crap either - or Bentley!!!

eupa · 07 February 2007, 07:29

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Originally Posted by Aidan

O knew I would find something emotive for you codders.

Brit shit cars suck....... Aston Martin DB excepted I am sure, the rest is shit really it is shit. The range of range Rover, I feel i can except at this stage,

It was equally crap with previous engines... and as for BL, I thought we were talking about cars... not dinkys,,,,

Sorry if I offend..... God it was real crap....

Please translate, the English is appalling.

Sincerely

Jonathan

eupa · 07 February 2007, 07:43

The Range Rover had the V8 engine from the start so wouldn't say it had shit engines!!! It also had all round coil springs and disk brakes - as early as 1970 - way ahead of the Japs - some of them STILL use leaf springs - as do the Yanks!!!

This will make you sit up Codders....

In 1995 I had a 4 door Range- with the VM engine- which I am proud to say
- managed to blow up. I looked around for a replacement and was offered a straight 6 Toyota 4.2 Landcruiser with an automatic box. This fitted exactly in the Range-even the engine supports were exactly in line. The only thing that had to be adapted was the prop shaft. As regards the handbrake ( Rangy has a drum brake behind the transmission) - we were able to get away with the MOT as saying that the handbrake was in fact the "P" position on the automatic

SO WHO COPIED WHAT???????

The japanese copied a lot of European stuff - but improved the copy.
This engine went on to do some 400.000 kms without being opened.

This to be published shortly in my memoirs - Currently stuck for a suitable title.

Jonathan