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Old 19 October 2005, 05:54   #11
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What's a DR?

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Old 19 October 2005, 05:56   #12
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I am sure you are all responsible types and understand about the types of unclassified roads, bridleways and footpaths, and which you can drive, ride and walk on.

Even so the following links may be of interest.

http://www.glass-uk.org/
http://www.byways.org.uk/
http://www.laragb.org/
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/20000037.htm
http://www.openaccess.gov.uk/S4/html...ccessLand.html
http://www.juracid.demon.co.uk/greenlanes/index.html

A few more at
http://www.hbro.co.uk/Greenlaning/Greenlanes.htm#lara

If you want more than just getting wet, get wet and muddy.
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Old 19 October 2005, 06:13   #13
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One of these... mine ain't so clean...seeing as some "Welsh Wannabbee" hooligan used to tear arse around the Llyn on it....
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Old 19 October 2005, 13:56   #14
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I am sure you are all responsible types and understand about the types of unclassified roads, bridleways and footpaths, and which you can drive, ride and walk on.

Even so the following links may be of interest.

http://www.glass-uk.org/
http://www.byways.org.uk/
http://www.laragb.org/
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/20000037.htm
http://www.openaccess.gov.uk/S4/html...ccessLand.html
http://www.juracid.demon.co.uk/greenlanes/index.html

A few more at
http://www.hbro.co.uk/Greenlaning/Greenlanes.htm#lara

If you want more than just getting wet, get wet and muddy.
some great links here

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Actually I've been thinking about getting a bike. My youth wasn't as misspent as it might have been, and the nearest I have come was riding a Honda City Express with a pizza box on the back (those of you who have met me can imagine how ludicrous that looked!).

I occurred to me that for roughly the price of a basket-case Searider, or about half the cost of a medium sized outboard, you can buy a two wheeled rocket machine. It seems that even a slow bike will outpace a fast car 0-60, and run all weekend on a few quids worth of petrol.

Quite fancy a F650 Dakar (for the added option of a bit of off-road dabbling), but I suppose I ought to decide on a bike school first before I get too carried away

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ooooh careful what you get

if you fancy some off road i would get started with a reasonably light weight bike so you can practice and have fun in relative safety, if you go for a big onroad/off road traily bike it can be a lot of a pig in the rough.

my advice would be do your test, get a cheapish second hand good traily or enduro, go have fun and learn bike handling and sliding around on the mud etc

and if you can afford it get a road bike at some stage or a road orientated bike.

at least with an cheapy offroader you can drop it and learn and not do any real damage so to speak.

dont go for the old trailies with no suspension unless you are vertically challenged as they are not up to a good bashing really. go for something with a reasonable suspension and tyre setup.

xlr/klr are a good starter bike in the 250 range before you go for more horses
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I am sure you are all responsible types and understand about the types of unclassified roads, bridleways and footpaths, and which you can drive, ride and walk on.

Even so the following links may be of interest.

http://www.glass-uk.org/
http://www.byways.org.uk/
http://www.laragb.org/
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/20000037.htm
http://www.openaccess.gov.uk/S4/html...ccessLand.html
http://www.juracid.demon.co.uk/greenlanes/index.html

A few more at
http://www.hbro.co.uk/Greenlaning/Greenlanes.htm#lara

If you want more than just getting wet, get wet and muddy.

The problem is they are rapidly closing more and more of the LEGAL routes - just pushing laws through with no opposition.

There is (was) a lovely track running through the Black Mountains above Brynamman. Really wild scenery - the track has been there since the Bronze age but lately is has all but vanished as nobody is allowed to drive on it anymore!!! Of course horses and carts used to use it - then came cars and 4x4s - now it's just sheep!!! Wonder if it is anything to do with the fact there are signs everywhere banning offroading - apparently you have to have PROOF it was used by motor vehicles since 1920!!!
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if you fancy some off road i would get started with a reasonably light weight bike so you can practice and have fun in relative safety, if you go for a big onroad/off road traily bike it can be a lot of a pig in the rough.

xlr/klr are a good starter bike in the 250 range before you go for more horses
I must admit I've always had a bit of a hankering for something in Mean Green!

Realistically though I'd probably spend more time on the motorway than in the dirt. I'm certainly not planning to audition for Kick Start any time soon.

My single most imortant criteria is probably the height of the bike. A KLR or KLX would certainly fit the bill, but I'm guessing that they're a bit more dirt orientated than I'd be looking for.

What other bikes should I be considering?

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for the road my tlr is a good bet, here is a pic of it packed in the garage and one with my daughter taking it for a spin.


if you are new to biking i would suggest a trailie for the winter with not too severe tyres and then you can have fun and get the feel for it, but if you will do a lot of road work and rarely on the mud then perhaps consider a road bike, if you are tall however you will need to carefully consider which you go for, mine sits high and my friend is very tall and he has an R1.

for your first bike get an older one for around 1-1.5k 500 or less and get your skills in place before venturing up the cc scale would be my advice

if you are quite tall then a trailie with the suspension pumped up would be ideal, my friends Dr350 is a bit low

good bikes to consider are as follows

KLX
KLR
XLR
XR
Later DR
DRZ might be a bit much in E spec or maybe ok in S spec

Have owned all of above, would recommend a 250 to start with and then progress up once you have your bike handling skills sorted

i would steer clear of 2 strokes due to noise, some folks love em i hate em personally. I can go all sorts of places i shouldnt but i dont get moaned at much, on a 2t you will get more attention. i know the drz enduro is not quiet but mine has been quietenend down a bit more so i can creep around

however

on the road i have a full system of Yoshi RS3 oval carbon babies, they sound the dogs nuts, not much sounds better, TTS /PDQ has sorted it for me as well. Had the bike from new and nothing has tempted me away except the Aprilla racing but not prepared to splash that cash and then full system on top.!!!!!
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for your first bike get an older one for around 1-1.5k 500 or less and get your skills in place before venturing up the cc scale would be my advice
Sounds sensible. Not sure Jono would approve though
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I'm a bit more than quite tall. Unfeasibly tall would probably be nearer the mark! I'm pretty sure it's going to be a trailie/enduro style machine
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on the road i have a full system of Yoshi RS3 oval carbon babies, they sound the dogs nuts, not much sounds better, TTS /PDQ has sorted it for me as well. Had the bike from new and nothing has tempted me away except the Aprilla racing but not prepared to splash that cash and then full system on top.!!!!!
Sorry! Absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's like a completely different language . . .

< Edit: Google tells me that it's an exhaust pipe. Will I get excited by this sort of thing if I get a bike? >

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Sounds sensible. Not sure Jono would approve though I'm a bit more than quite tall. Unfeasibly tall would probably be nearer the mark! I'm pretty sure it's going to be a trailie/enduro style machineSorry! Absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's like a completely different language . . .

< Edit: Google tells me that it's an exhaust pipe. Will I get excited by this sort of thing if I get a bike? >

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yep all 1500 of em, and if you were to hear em singing under speed then you would get excited, even the mrs gets excited but the kids get scared and the house vibrates, car alarms go off, but they are a safety feature in my mind if you like speed then nothing beats a decent bike........

http://www.jbracing.co.uk/yoshi.cfm

mine are oval carbons.

by the way is this a pic of you?

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feel free to give me a call if you fancy any views or input
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