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Old 23 December 2006, 09:21   #21
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Actually, IMHO it is the so-called 'professional' drivers (e.g. taxi drivers, van & lorry drivers) who often display an arrogant disregard for the rules of the road and for other road users. Many of them seem to have one of two attitudes: either, because I do this for a living, I'm better at it than you and you should give way to me at all times because this is my job; or, I'm bigger than you so I'll just bully you. Of course, not all professional drivers are like this, but a significant number are!
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Old 23 December 2006, 09:47   #22
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Louise,

I totally agree with you

Lorry drivers overtaking on a two lane Motorway 1 mph faster than the vehicle they are overtaking. Comes to mind.
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Lumping us all together is quite an insult. Taxi and van drivers are possibly the worst drivers on the road.

The problem with being in a truck is that you're blighted by dithering incompetent morons all the time. Not ALL are-but a large enough proportion that the only way to be safe is to assume all are. Good drivers don't stand out. Idiots do.

Incidentally I'm guilty of pushing my way out too. What people don't realise is it take 10 times the gap in traffic to get a lorry out of a junction than a car and in the 10 minutes I've been waiting to pull out because no-one displays any courtesy anymore there's half a mile of stationary traffic fuming behind me. We're pretty much stuck between a rock and a hard place in that respect-the public neither understand or care about anyone other than themselves and they hate being stuck behind us. They have no idea how much room we need to do the most basic of manouevres either.

I often take both lanes on the way into a roundabout too-and it's not because I need the room to make the turn. It's simply because if I don't then the lemmings in cars will swarm round me like flies round shit and block me and anyone else going the same way from going anywhere and have no idea that they are doing it.


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Lorry drivers overtaking on a two lane Motorway 1 mph faster than the vehicle they are overtaking. Comes to mind.
I'm afraid that's just one of those things where you have to be sat in the driving seat of the lorry at the time to understand. Sometimes it's necessary, sometimes not.
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Old 23 December 2006, 10:23   #24
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Lumping us all together is quite an insult. Taxi and van drivers are possibly the worst drivers on the road.
I see. Yet another lorry driver that never does anything wrong.
Well, I guess it depends on your perspective.

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I'm afraid that's just one of those things where you have to be sat in the driving seat of the lorry at the time to understand. Sometimes it's necessary, sometimes not.
What a cop out! Come on, Nos! In the interests of promoting harmony and better understanding between 'you' and 'us' why not explain?

Biggles, thanks for your support. One of the things I was thinking of is when lorries tailgate one another in the nearside lane of the motorway when there is a sliproad joining. So Nos, why do lorry drivers do that?
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One of the things I was thinking of is when lorries tailgate one another in the nearside lane of the motorway when there is a sliproad joining. So Nos, why do lorry drivers do that?
Getting in some ones slip stream means you can lay off the gas!

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So Nos, why do lorry drivers do that?
Trust a woman to ask a silly question like that. It's because otherwise, you'd have to pull out and overtake at a speed of 1mph more than the other truck's doing, you featherbrain. You can always rely on a woman to introduce logic into a perfectly good argument and spoil it.


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This occured in March 1997 on M42 resulting in a terrible 90 vehicle pile up
I remember it well. Three dead, sixty injured. We were looking forward to crawling into bed after a busy nightshift when all that cracked off. A 12 hour shift turned into 18 hours.

Out of all the jobs I went on, that one comes in about number 5 in the list of most memorable.

It was very eerie being in thick fog with cars on fire, trapped people screaming and speeding vehicles still shunting into the wreckage further down the road. Something like that tends to focus the mind.

Strangely enough, I find lorry drivers a big help when towing a boat. They usually give you extra room and flash you in after overtaking which they don't do for caravans and other types of trailer.

So Nos, why do lorry drivers do that?

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Wouldn't things be helped if this Tax Grabbing, Social Engineering, Incompetant Government spent some money on improving Britains infrastructure to bring it in to line with the rest of Europe. Then I wouldn't have to moan about 2 lane Motorways (That shouldn't be called Motorways) and all us workers could go about our business making this country great again.

Don't think thats what labour wants us to do. Something about Climate Change that has become the latest weeze to Tax middle England to death.

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Wouldn't things be helped if this Tax Grabbing, Social Engineering, Incompetant Government spent some money on improving Britains infrastructure to bring it in to line with the rest of Europe. Then I wouldn't have to moan about 2 lane Motorways (That shouldn't be called Motorways) and all us workers could go about our business making this country great again.

Don't think thats what labour wants us to do. Something about Climate Change that has become the latest weeze to Tax middle England to death.

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Agree with richard on the fog lights dazzling in rain - same as the idiots(women mostly) who don't know what the handbrake is for at traffic lights and blind you with their high level brake light!!!

As to lorries overtaking at 1mph more than the other who do I blame? NOT the truck drivers but the bloody EU and the government for fitting speed limiters!!!

To group most HGV drivers in with taxi drivers is a joke. I have driven more miles than most and I find Artic drivers in particular the best of them all - coach drivers are scum though!!!

Try driving through the Pyrynees or somewhere similar and you will see just how good HGV drivers are compared to most car drivers.
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Try driving through the Pyrynees or somewhere similar and you will see just how good HGV drivers are compared to most car drivers.
But thats abroad and people abroad are a lot different to the British. Abroad has lots more restrictions on HGVs.
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