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Old 19 August 2018, 04:24   #41
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I wonder if we do show up on radar,
Edit, just remembered the police at coulport told me last time they pulled me up there they could see me on radar when I asked, not sure they would ever admit to not seeing ofcourse
I expect Coulport's kit might be a tad more sophisticated and better tuned to looking for fast moving targets that might be trying to sneak in "under the RADAR" so to speak... ...what with that being its principle purpose.

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...never seen what it looks like at other end of radar, i can probably test that though next time we are out LT....I'll get my old man onto the case on his old work boats.
Seems a reasonable equivalence of what the trawler might see.

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It’s “easy” to see something on radar if you can visually see the corresponding thing to match it to and adjust the settings to remove the clutter. Working blind it’s not quite so easy to tune the radar and make sure you spot the weak returns, and mentally recognise them as boats.
Yes - so you need your old man to go out on a cr@ppy day with enough weather clutter to be realistic and effectively blind fold himself to where you guys are and then find you and determine (a) you are a moving target (b) your course and likelihood of collision. While also trying to make sure he keeps a straight course and avoids any other big shipping etc.

Perhaps a suitable test is to take the two of you out but only tell him one of you is going out and see if he works out there is a second boat!
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Old 19 August 2018, 04:30   #42
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He was displaying neither the nose to nose cones nor the single upright cone for a 150+ mtr extended trawl (rule26)
Wow! That must be about the only fishing boat that doesn't have them permanently on display!

However, as it was restricted vis - he'd have has nav lights on. What did they say?
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Old 19 August 2018, 06:39   #43
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MAIB commisioned report on various reflectors.................

https://assets.publishing.service.go...ors_report.pdf
Geez their Christmas party must be fun.

They should adopt the chewin the fat method of picking radar reflectors, save pages of reporting-

https://youtu.be/Z_UGD7AazMI
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Old 19 August 2018, 07:45   #44
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Geez their Christmas party must be fun.

They should adopt the chewin the fat method of picking radar reflectors, save pages of reporting-
If they do that - they would risk complaints from the w**k ones though...

This way... dull as it may be... who is going to argue...
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Geez, have a day off
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Whats your point?
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If it needs explaining you won't get it anyway so best carry on.
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He wasn't trawling.... he was doing around twelve knots and dragging a couple of hundred meters of rope and something hanging from a buoy behind that. He was displaying neither the nose to nose cones nor the single upright cone for a 150+ mtr extended trawl (rule26)

We were going slow enough to avoid him...and we did.

Had we been stationary he WOULD have ran straight into us. It was 100% the action we took that prevented that.
It would be an interesting situation for anyone crossing behind him. A potential fouled prop & getting dragged backwards by an unknown vessel would raise the heart rate a bit.
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No that would be far from ideal which is why we have invested in AIS for now. Radar would be better ofcourse but not sure of running it on a small rib and it being probably at head height 3m away, maybe look into it at a later date.
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No that would be far from ideal which is why we have invested in AIS for now. Radar would be better ofcourse but not sure of running it on a small rib and it being probably at head height 3m away, maybe look into it at a later date.


Plenty of people have successfully done so, jwalker and Willk being top examples - clearly no major damage has been done...
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