Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 24 October 2008, 14:01   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle Staffs
Boat name: blue it
Make: ribcraft 7.5
Length: 7m +
Engine: suzuki df225
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 488
Send a message via AIM to Top banana
suzuki engine data to garmin 4008

Going to replace my current plotter to a garmin 4008. and would like to Know if i can link it through nmea 2000 to my suzuki df 225.
Trying to get an answer off suzuki and garmin is nigh on impossible, they just dont seem to have a clue.I think the only engine interface cable from a suzuki
is the ep20 which is a lawrence product. Im trying to get engine data from the outboard direct to the plotter, fuel used,etc a bit like the smartcraft system.
Does anybody know if there is a connector from the Ep20 to mary with the garmin network.
__________________

__________________
Top banana
Top banana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 October 2008, 03:45   #2
RJH
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 169
Hi, I've had the same issues with a similar set up. I believed the "smartcraft" functionality was part of the deal with the 4008 and didn't find out until after purchase that it was going to be an extra expense. I spoke to Garmin at the Southampton Boat Show and they can supply the kit to do it no problem. The issue for me is that as wiring a 3-pin plug is the limit of my capabilities with electronics, you need a specialist to do the job - and that isn't going to be cheap from a labour point of view. Something I can't justify right now.

Good luck!
__________________

__________________
RJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 October 2008, 04:26   #3
RIBnet supporter
 
bedajim's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs/Northants
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by Top banana View Post
Going to replace my current plotter to a garmin 4008. and would like to Know if i can link it through nmea 2000 to my suzuki df 225.
Trying to get an answer off suzuki and garmin is nigh on impossible, they just dont seem to have a clue.I think the only engine interface cable from a suzuki
is the ep20 which is a lawrence product. Im trying to get engine data from the outboard direct to the plotter, fuel used,etc a bit like the smartcraft system.
Does anybody know if there is a connector from the Ep20 to mary with the garmin network.
I think you will find the answer here

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...=109712&page=4
__________________
bedajim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 October 2008, 10:44   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle Staffs
Boat name: blue it
Make: ribcraft 7.5
Length: 7m +
Engine: suzuki df225
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 488
Send a message via AIM to Top banana
Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim View Post
I think you will find the answer here

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...=109712&page=4
Cheers james, it looks like a mine field but in theory should be straight forward. Made worse by the fact that suuki, and garmin seem to have no idea, and you need a lowrance ep20 data cable to connect to garmin plotter.
surelly suzuki should supply a network cable of there own.
__________________
Top banana
Top banana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26 October 2008, 16:19   #5
RIBnet supporter
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,830
As far as I know, the Lowrance EP-20 will connect to all NMEA2000 equipment. It pumps out standard NMEA sentences which should be understood by all modern units. You have to be a little careful however as I gather not all NMEA units are made equal. http://www.panbo.com/archives/2008/0...ripe.html#more
__________________
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 October 2008, 04:29   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: RocknRoller
Make: Revenger
Length: 4m +
Engine: 150 Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 147
This will be the cable that your after you can get it from SMG I believe as they are a distibuter for Offshore Systems.


http://www.osukl.com/NMEA2000_Cabling_Adaptors.htm
__________________
craigdavis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2008, 16:36   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Craka Daux
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 128
Send a message via MSN to nick wood
garmin and suzuki

I was lucky enough to have sitting in my office the other day, the tech guy from Garmin, who was giving all the chat about the garmin/suzuki set up. I got most intrested at this point owning a Garmin 4012 Plotter and a Suzuki 70hp. But... first off make sure you have the right engine otherwise i belive it to be more expensive if it's pre 2007, becasue of the different types of connection at the engine end of things, my engine is 2005 and needs a extra loom, but yes that is correct you need the lorwance leed, garmin do not produce there own. Indeed SMG sell this leed and we are going to stock it in our shop becasue we belive it will be asked for more and more. I have a load more info at work about the tech sideof fitting and parts needed, I'l dig it out and post for you guys.
__________________
Nick Wood - MD South Pier Marine, Jersey.
www.southpiermarine.com nick@southpiermarine.com
http://www.myboatshop.co.uk
nick wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30 October 2008, 16:54   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle Staffs
Boat name: blue it
Make: ribcraft 7.5
Length: 7m +
Engine: suzuki df225
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 488
Send a message via AIM to Top banana
Keep us posted Nik, mine is allso pre 2007,and wanted to make sure i got the right fitting first off,Asked the local suzuki dealer about all this but he hadnt a clue,He even contacted suzuki,and they were no better.
__________________
Top banana
Top banana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31 October 2008, 08:34   #9
RIBnet supporter
 
Erin's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,830
2008 and newer suzukis have a square 4-pin plug on the engine, whereas pre 2008 have a round connector. You can adapt between the two, either with a purpose made adaptor or by getting hold of the right connector and doing a little bit of soldering. I've got the wiring info if anyine needs it.

I sourced my replacement connector (loom had round, I needed square) from a Japanese supplier of suzuki motorbike accessories. Cheap and first class service. This avoided the need for adaptor leads with the risk of corrosion at joints etc.

Worth remebering is that the early engines give out less data. I think the nmea2000 data stream started in 2004 with progressively more info being streamed from the engine each year. The real problem is that suzuki make the engines, lowrance make the lead and garmin etc make the displays. None of them have really properly talked to eachother to make sure it is all fully compatible. Shame really.
__________________
Erin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.