suzuki engine data to garmin 4008

Top banana · 24 October 2008, 18:01

Going to replace my current plotter to a garmin 4008. and would like to Know if i can link it through nmea 2000 to my suzuki df 225.
Trying to get an answer off suzuki and garmin is nigh on impossible, they just dont seem to have a clue.I think the only engine interface cable from a suzuki
is the ep20 which is a lawrence product. Im trying to get engine data from the outboard direct to the plotter, fuel used,etc a bit like the smartcraft system.
Does anybody know if there is a connector from the Ep20 to mary with the garmin network.

RJH · 25 October 2008, 07:45

Hi, I've had the same issues with a similar set up. I believed the "smartcraft" functionality was part of the deal with the 4008 and didn't find out until after purchase that it was going to be an extra expense. I spoke to Garmin at the Southampton Boat Show and they can supply the kit to do it no problem. The issue for me is that as wiring a 3-pin plug is the limit of my capabilities with electronics, you need a specialist to do the job - and that isn't going to be cheap from a labour point of view. Something I can't justify right now.

Good luck!

bedajim · 25 October 2008, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Top banana

Going to replace my current plotter to a garmin 4008. and would like to Know if i can link it through nmea 2000 to my suzuki df 225.
Trying to get an answer off suzuki and garmin is nigh on impossible, they just dont seem to have a clue.I think the only engine interface cable from a suzuki
is the ep20 which is a lawrence product. Im trying to get engine data from the outboard direct to the plotter, fuel used,etc a bit like the smartcraft system.
Does anybody know if there is a connector from the Ep20 to mary with the garmin network.

I think you will find the answer here

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...=109712&page=4

Top banana · 25 October 2008, 14:44

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Originally Posted by bedajim

I think you will find the answer here

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...=109712&page=4

Cheers james,

it looks like a mine field but in theory should be straight forward. Made worse by the fact that suuki, and garmin seem to have no idea, and you need a lowrance ep20 data cable to connect to garmin plotter.
surelly suzuki should supply a network cable of there own.

Erin · 26 October 2008, 20:19

As far as I know, the Lowrance EP-20 will connect to all NMEA2000 equipment. It pumps out standard NMEA sentences which should be understood by all modern units. You have to be a little careful however as I gather not all NMEA units are made equal. http://www.panbo.com/archives/2008/0...ripe.html#more

craigdavis · 28 October 2008, 08:29

This will be the cable that your after you can get it from SMG I believe as they are a distibuter for Offshore Systems.

http://www.osukl.com/NMEA2000_Cabling_Adaptors.htm

nick wood · 30 October 2008, 20:36

I was lucky enough to have sitting in my office the other day, the tech guy from Garmin, who was giving all the chat about the garmin/suzuki set up. I got most intrested at this point owning a Garmin 4012 Plotter and a Suzuki 70hp. But... first off make sure you have the right engine otherwise i belive it to be more expensive if it's pre 2007, becasue of the different types of connection at the engine end of things, my engine is 2005 and needs a extra loom, but yes that is correct you need the lorwance leed, garmin do not produce there own. Indeed SMG sell this leed and we are going to stock it in our shop becasue we belive it will be asked for more and more. I have a load more info at work about the tech sideof fitting and parts needed, I'l dig it out and post for you guys.

Top banana · 30 October 2008, 20:54

Keep us posted Nik, mine is allso pre 2007,and wanted to make sure i got the right fitting first off,Asked the local suzuki dealer about all this but he hadnt a clue,He even contacted suzuki,and they were no better.

Erin · 31 October 2008, 12:34

2008 and newer suzukis have a square 4-pin plug on the engine, whereas pre 2008 have a round connector. You can adapt between the two, either with a purpose made adaptor or by getting hold of the right connector and doing a little bit of soldering. I've got the wiring info if anyine needs it.

I sourced my replacement connector (loom had round, I needed square) from a Japanese supplier of suzuki motorbike accessories. Cheap and first class service. This avoided the need for adaptor leads with the risk of corrosion at joints etc.

Worth remebering is that the early engines give out less data. I think the nmea2000 data stream started in 2004 with progressively more info being streamed from the engine each year. The real problem is that suzuki make the engines, lowrance make the lead and garmin etc make the displays. None of them have really properly talked to eachother to make sure it is all fully compatible. Shame really.