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Old 23 May 2015, 21:02   #11
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ShinyShoe, I run at WOT because I am impatient, most of my runs I this boat would be up river to a restaurant we frequent. It's about 15 nautical miles away.

Sparticus, max hp is normally my rule but thought someone might chime in and say that this hull might be sensitive to engine weight.

Now we have solved the hp issue, it will be 70. Thank you.

I am even slightly tempted to pay the 50% premium for an F70 just to see what all the fuss is about.
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Old 24 May 2015, 01:54   #12
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Looks like that Evinrude 70 is an early 1990's model... I've got a '91 Evinrude 6 hp which has the same style hood decals as yours. So any idea what the issue may be with the motor?
That era had electronic oil blending with a fuel pump that looks looks like a part out of Apollo 13 with the same reliability. Unfortunately when they fail, and they do, the engine keeps running, but without any oil.....never a good thing.
There was also issues with the middle cylinder not cooling properly and wrecking the bore. However he's not mentioned what's up with it so it could be something trivial
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Old 24 May 2015, 03:25   #13
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ShinyShoe, I run at WOT because I am impatient, most of my runs I this boat would be up river to a restaurant we frequent. It's about 15 nautical miles away.

Sparticus, max hp is normally my rule but thought someone might chime in and say that this hull might be sensitive to engine weight.

Now we have solved the hp issue, it will be 70. Thank you.

I am even slightly tempted to pay the 50% premium for an F70 just to see what all the fuss is about.


Mate of mine used his Gemeni for the same thing (Darling harbour runs for lunch) no worries about paying or finding parking He ended up putting a 175 etec on a 550.

The 70F is a great engine, sometimes a little hard to here it running but no smell and great reliability. Starlo (tv fishing celeb) got one of the first in the country a couple of years ago and still raves about it.

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Old 24 May 2015, 18:41   #14
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Tohatsu four stroke engines are quiet and smooth,sometimes too the point where at idle you think they have stopped and try to restart them.
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Old 24 May 2015, 23:42   #15
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That era had electronic oil blending with a fuel pump that looks looks like a part out of Apollo 13 with the same reliability. Unfortunately when they fail, and they do, the engine keeps running, but without any oil.....never a good thing.

There was also issues with the middle cylinder not cooling properly and wrecking the bore. However he's not mentioned what's up with it so it could be something trivial

I had a buddy with a Yamaha that did that, lost the oil pump but kept running (for a bit)
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Old 27 May 2015, 16:17   #16
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175 on 5.5m? I tried that, 175hp on my 5.6m Dockitjet. Didn't go well for me.

I hope to pick up the rib in a week and a half and will make decision when back home. Looks like the 70hp 2 stroke Tohatsu at the moment but a super deal on a Yamaha F70 might sway me.

Also need to buy a jockey console. The only one I can find available in Sydney is a Mercury for $1199. It all ads up quick.
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Re. the spares & service costs -

1) do you have a good engine breakers nearby? - Only arguably really useful when big stuff breaks (e.g Transom clamp) - I can still get running spares for my 1972 vintage Johnson so do a bit of research on your local supplier(s) .....

2) servicing. Old school 2- strokes don't need a lot. Granted a TDLCi (or whatever the acronym is!) might need a computer to talk to the engine management, but for the older carburetted engines - (and I include the 4- strokes in this) - Could you do it yourself?


3) I have an 82Kg 60Hp on the back of my 5m. it keeps up with similar, heavier boats with 90s on the transom, and I can feel the handling change as the fuel tanks empty. The weight makes a much more significant difference in a small rib than it might in a 10M with 300 Hp on the back.


Just some food for thought.
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kubcat the 175 was on one of those Gemini boats which were sold off cheap at the end of the olympics in Sydney (used by security).

As for parts, my way of thinking is buy new where you get 5 years warranty (extended to 7 years with some dealers). At the end of warranty I sell and replace with new normally only costing me $2000 or less out of pocket. Never have to worry about the cost of mechanical repairs agin.

Yamaha have 1% finance and a complete fitting gauges etc for a very reasonable price Brisbane Yamaha - Yamaha Outboards Sales Service - Quintrex - Baysport

As for the jockey console, that would be the first thing I would remove!! A simple console you can stand behind or have a storage box seat you can sit on if you chose. I tend to head well offshore (40-50km) so standing gives me a better view picking my way back in rough conditions. Being able to stand with slightly bent knees helps my back too.

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Old 28 May 2015, 17:25   #19
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Rover310, no ideas what's wrong with the current motor, haven't picked up the boat yet. The previous owner said it was a 70's and it is $&@;5&.

I do want a new motor so not keen on fixing the old one.
Not that it matters, as you're planning on getting a new outboard anyway, but that Evinrude 70 HP pictured in your opening post is most definitely from the early 1990's, not a 70's vintage as the seller has told you. The hood decals indicate it's a 1991, but that can be confirmed by looking at the Model Number shown on the transom clamp.

You'd be surprised how often people put things like outboard motors up for sale, thinking that it's junk and not repairable, and it turns out to be a relatively minor issue. And in the case of this Evinrude, if the seller doesn't even know the correct model year of this outboard, there's a fair chance he also doesn't know what's really wrong with it (beyond "it doesn't work").

Just saying...
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Well a decision has been made.

My local dealer traded in a 2011 60hp 4 stroke Mercury which I think is the similar to the Yamaha F60.

I did want a brand new motor but the price is considerably less than half of a brand new one and it looks brand new under the cowl so it is being fitted today. I can give it back if I don't like it and get a full credit towards a new motor, so not much to lose.

I would have preferred a 70 but it is too good a deal to pass up.

Thank you for all your input.

Will update when I get the boat but any suggestions on prop size. The motor currently has a 15 inch Mirage stainless prop.
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