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Old 26 January 2003, 21:31   #21
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interesting thread....

Just a logical thought .....

If a product such as this is so effective in many ways as you have discussed, why is it not simply added to our fuel at the pumps in the first place ?

Some clever mathematician on this thread could also work out what % fuel saving Soltron would have to provide to break even on its own costs, ??

Just out of interest as I know you have pointed out it is not all about fuel savings

This figure of course would differ for cheaper marine diesel and petrol pump prices
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I would guess that the merits of using something that combats shit in the fuel is more important with the old dodgy stuff that comes from the average fuel barge in the solent!

I mean, forecourt pump diesel is probably pretty good anyway!
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Old 26 January 2003, 21:37   #23
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Its a question of popularity if you get enuf people together I will get a tanker already mixed with Soltron to you from the fuel co.

There is a fuel co doing this but cant give you any more details classified I am afraid, sorry.

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That's no good, My fuel might be getting it twice!
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Old 26 January 2003, 21:46   #25
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I'm confused , if a fuel company is already doing this then surely they would be shouting about its benefits in order to try and gain an advantage over its competitors

what would be the point otherwise in using it at additional costs

unless they are shouting about a different name for it

also if you tell us which fuel company it is , we can use that fuel and wont have the additional costs of buying your Soltron, LOL !!!

only fuel company I am aware of, is Shell optisomething, which has done some strong advertising claiming extra power from their fuel

another logical thought

if your product can break even in its costs, from fuel savings, other benefits such as cleaner fuel, then we should logically ALL be buying it ???
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Old 26 January 2003, 21:49   #26
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I mirrored your thoughts, we could be getting it twice or putting in a stronger ratio than needed !!!

The american website is a bit more informative than the uk one

http://www.solpower.com/soltron/soltrontestimonials.asp

some quite convincing testimonials, which you would expect given its claims on website

UK website claims 10 to 15 % fuel savings

at forecourt prices this product represents an additional cost of 1.34 % to your fuel bill

at marine diesel prices ( 30 p ish / litre ? ) represents 3.39 % to your fuel bill

So logic says if its going to give you 10 % + fuel saving then we should all be using it !!

My head hurts , Good night
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Worried about your fuel bill fuller ?

Mateboy exellent questioning as the outcome may mean we need to get some shares in this little dynamo. I will have a butchers at the share price if listed?

Sounds like a buy buy buy to me ka.

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Old 26 January 2003, 22:58   #28
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There is a fuel co doing this but cant give you any more details classified I am afraid, sorry.
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Bug grows worse (for the user, better for the bug) in fiberglass tanks. 'twouldn't be a company using fiberglass road tankers would it ?
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My head hurts...
- hey, here's another thought: There's a product, Ecoflow, http://www.mghmarketing.co.uk which is basically a big magnet which is clamped around the fuel line. Anyway, it's claimed by the manufacturers and marketing company that it will increase fuel efficiency by about 10%ish. When I worked for the Army, an enterprising squaddie was selling these to all his mates, civil serveants and civilian staff alike, and apparently they reckoned that they really worked well.

I also did some work for Broquet International Limited years ago http://www.broquet.com, and they seemed to have a very credible product.

Never tried any of these products myself, but with the cost of fuel for boats being even more significant than cars, I guess that the payoff of better efficiency bears consideration.

Any chemists specialising in hydrocarbons out there?
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That's no good, My fuel might be getting it twice!
In Shepperton Jon I doubt it very much!!!
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Bug grows worse (for the user, better for the bug) in fiberglass tanks. 'twouldn't be a company using fiberglass road tankers would it ?

Nope, not yet released in UK guys.
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Is it worth a punt then dom on the old stock exchange whatya think?Eh MuMs the word.
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I'm confused , if a fuel company is already doing this then surely they would be shouting about its benefits in order to try and gain an advantage over its competitors
what would be the point otherwise in using it at additional costs
unless they are shouting about a different name for it
also if you tell us which fuel company it is , we can use that fuel and wont have the additional costs of buying your Soltron, LOL !!!
only fuel company I am aware of, is Shell optisomething, which has done some strong advertising claiming extra power from their fuel
another logical thought
if your product can break even in its costs, from fuel savings, other benefits such as cleaner fuel, then we should logically ALL be buying it ???
In a business world it is not that simple, nice idea but things take time and need to process properly or it falls apart. Think how long would it take you to put a really good invention out innto the shops?? alot longer than you think beleive me same with this but Soltron is not in it for this year or next year we are here to revolutionise the fuel market for the future.

I would like to give you guys more info but it takes me deeper and deeper into ifferent areas and different bits for different engines I will end up with a divirce for devoting my time to the PC as there is only one guy answering the questions here and fifteen asking them. Also I have to keep the confidential stuff confidential which makes it a little awkward but I will try my best ok.

If your business were to approach me then thats a differnet story but posting it on a BB not a good move.
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Is it worth a punt then dom on the old stock exchange whatya think?Eh MuMs the word.
If you can get shares let me know where I can get mine.

thnx

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If its a private company it will be looking for funding,your rightly placed in the market with your green teck stuff.Im impressed that you have tried to explain sometimes rationaly sometimes not and you will see that we all respect manufacturer or agents or what ever comming on here and voicing there oppinions, but they sometimes get more than they expect from us as we ask questions.No more selling or we start again,and I havnt got the time,or you.

So welcome and You have won me over good luck and I will be using your products thanks.

Im running with it,You can stand your ground and lets roll.
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Re: Re: Jon

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pepper
[B] - hey, here's another thought: There's a product, Ecoflow, http://www.mghmarketing.co.uk which is basically a big magnet which is clamped around the fuel line. Anyway, it's claimed by the manufacturers and marketing company that it will increase fuel efficiency by about 10%ish. When I worked for the Army, an enterprising squaddie was selling these to all his mates, civil serveants and civilian staff alike, and apparently they reckoned that they really worked well.

Yes they work but it is crucial that you position them exactly in the right place otherwise its no good and in a marine engine you will be lucky to get it there, still doesnt stop the bug problem.

I know you guys have expensive fuel (here petrol 42ppl diesel 25ppl) but dont you think of anything else but economy??

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Old 27 January 2003, 00:00   #37
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I mirrored your thoughts, we could be getting it twice or putting in a stronger ratio than needed !!!

The american website is a bit more informative than the uk one

http://www.solpower.com/soltron/soltrontestimonials.asp

some quite convincing testimonials, which you would expect given its claims on website

UK website claims 10 to 15 % fuel savings

at forecourt prices this product represents an additional cost of 1.34 % to your fuel bill

at marine diesel prices ( 30 p ish / litre ? ) represents 3.39 % to your fuel bill

So logic says if its going to give you 10 % + fuel saving then we should all be using it !!

My head hurts , Good night
The physics are if your fuel combusts fully you are burning it leanly therefore providing more downforce to the piston therefore getting more power or the smae power at slightly lower revs therefore fuel economy. Trouble is most people get throttle happy with the extra power and ose the economy


PLEASE guys remember ALL the benefits.

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Old 27 January 2003, 00:10   #38
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If its a private company it will be looking for funding,your rightly placed in the market with your green teck stuff.Im impressed that you have tried to explain sometimes rationaly sometimes not and you will see that we all respect manufacturer or agents or what ever comming on here and voicing there oppinions, but they sometimes get more than they expect from us as we ask questions.No more selling or we start again,and I havnt got the time,or you.

So welcome and You have won me over good luck and I will be using your products thanks.

Please read my new catch line note on the bottom of this thread.
I wasnt selling it was you that was doing the asking !!!!

No doesnt need funding has been running for a few years now however I do need to expand the Chandlery stockists if anyone is interested.

Apologies if I have been a bit hard nosed but you have to be otherwise people dont take you seriously. All the products I get involved in are tested first and I dont get involved with crap. One I dont have the time and two its no good for my reputation.

One day I will teach you a few things about fuel, it is very interesting.

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Im a funny sort of guy at times and as far as Im concernd you have demonstrated to me your belief of your products.Its something that we all take seriously and even if we cant prove things then sometimes you have to judge the guy,and his beliefs and run with your feelings.

So im in on the Soltron if thats ok. I hope other will follow when thay get positive feedback from us all.

Any Champers left?

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So im in on the Soltron if thats ok. Any Champers left?

Thank Heavens for that!!!
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