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Old 20 August 2004, 06:26   #1
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Mercury Verado Outboards

I am thinking of having a pair of these around 250 hp for my next private Rib
Has anybody had the pleasure of trialing these engines yet perhaps in the USA or does anybody know anybody who has this type of engine yet.
We have a pair of these in our factory in Poland but as its such new concept and I have persoanlly not tried these engines i am hoping that somebody somewhere may of.
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I am thinking of having a pair of these around 250 hp for my next private Rib
Has anybody had the pleasure of trialing these engines yet perhaps in the USA or does anybody know anybody who has this type of engine yet.
We have a pair of these in our factory in Poland but as its such new concept and I have persoanlly not tried these engines i am hoping that somebody somewhere may of.
David, nice one,

unfortunately the black Parker 900 Baltic got sold before we got the chance to test those babies

there was a test done in Finland and a good report was posted on RibNet
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Mercury Verado 250 seatrial experiences
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info as found by Andre

I have pasted this infor direct in the thread to allow people to see
just inn case like me they could not find it in the first place !!!
thank you Andre.

I was lucky to have been playing with Mercury Verado for four days during the last weekend. We had a major boating press happening in which I was hired to a driver of Bruckwick group boats. One of our boats, Aquador 21, had a brand new Verado 250 installed. Herewith some recent experiences about the engine, even though the boat wasn't a RIB. I had also long talks with Mercury Marine superspecialist Serge Santy, who has the most comprehensive information available about all Mercury Marine engines in Europe.

To start with, there are five Verados now in Europe of which two are the largest 275 hp versions. This our engine is the first Verado in Scandinavia and arrived Finland last thursday 8 days ago. The installation was carried out with very thight schedule since our happening started in saturday.

The engine is impressive. At first you can see its different installation geometry: the engine is actually outside the stern, so the distance to other structures like back of the engine well is longer than in ordinary outboards. Therefore you can tilt the engine to nearly horizontal position, which allows for example the propeller change easier than earlier. Powerhead is tall and it's cover can be deassembled easily in two pieces revealing the engine itself. Other point to note is a electro-hydraulic streering unit, there is just a small cylinder and two hydraulic hoses which take care of steering. No more cables or bulky hydraulic pumps.

Our test boat, Aquador 21, is a luxury daycruiser with maximum power recommendation of 225 hp. After some initial trials we installed a four blade 19" propeller and left the harbour for a test drive. I was more than eager since I had been waiting for months to test Verado!

The engines is started from a button in remote control unit. Needles to say, idling sound is hardly possible to hear, like a whisper. Clutch is electronic, you just firmly push it in and the boat will start to move. For the first time I was surprised, did the transmission really engaged, but Mr. Serge Santy said everything is ok. The clutch is just so soft that you hardly can feel when it works.

At under 10 knots hydraulic steering unit's sound is the only noise you can hear. Due extreme hurry with installation, the unit had to be placed under a sofa just on deck, so in following installations the small buzzing heard from steering system will disappear.

After we left the harbour, I opened the throttle and felt the power. Engine accelerated immediately and pushed the boat instantly to 40 knots. After some trimming the speed rose near 50 knot limit but not over it. The sound at full speed is incredible, you could speak without shouting just sitting on a sofa 250 hp Verado running over 6000 rpm just 3 feet away from you! There's just some small humming heard from stern....

I did quite a lot different acceleration tests and I have to say that Verado does speed probably better than any other production outboard. Sami Seliö, a U.I.M. F1 Boat driver was in our team and compared this engine to his earlier experiences. He said that Yamaha V-MAX 250 HPDI had the best throttle response he had tested to date, but Verado's capabilities were still better and the engine was the most responsive production outboard he had seen ever. My opinion is similar, Verado is fighting in completely the different category than other four-stroke engines and is, according to my subjective test session, better performer than most of the two stroke ourboards. Verado just accelerates like a rocket, at 30 knots you can feel the rush when pushing the throttle full open.

Aquador 21 weights some 1200 kg and we had 200 litres of fuel, 100 kg of equipment and two persons on board. After some serious driving, we really concentrated on hitting the top speed. At full throttle and nearly maximum trim 50,1 kn was achieved in nearly calm water. Not a bad figure, engine speed at four blader was 6260 rpm. Accelerating the Verado to top speed is great, power just comes and at over 40 knots while trimming high there's a low whistling sound like heard inside a jet plane flight - the compressor gives a nice sound! In our installation trimming too high wasn't possible, so driving was easy since limiter allowed no cavitation.

My earlier opinion about Verado was that it may be the most significant step in modern outboard history if everything will come true like promised. Now, after seatrials, I am confident that Mercury had done something that is very difficult to beat. It's not only the pure power, but just for example electro-hydraulic steering and control is totally different and very easy to handle. This system, by the way, comes to standard feature to Optimax V6 series also in very near future, maybe next season.

I spoke a lot about future or Verados and sales prospects. Deliveries start in Europe in July-August for the engines now revealed. Only authorized Verado dealers can sell and install engines, so all Mercury dealers cannot work with these fine mechines at first phase. Customers are not allowed to install Verados by themselves, so you have to order the Verado dealer to put your engine properly to your stern. Even if you would break the rules, installation is not possible since you need some softwares during preparations that are available only for Mercury staff.

Four cylinder models are following in 100-200 hp power range soon, probably a year after these 6 cylinder models. Also some larger engines will come, most likely a 300 hp version soon. Even larger power is easy to push out of Verado block, the racing model with 400 hp output can be easily created just by changing the chip in controller. Still, pleasureboat versions with higher output than 300-325 hp are not likely to come out.

I will post you some images from test drive tomorrow, but here was my first seatrial opinion. Andre and other guys who have already ordered Verados are getting a very fine engine, something that really stands out of the current ourboards available.
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You must be quite well of then.
CAN I BE YOUR FRIEND LOLOL
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One penny behind you dear sir

Hello Manos ,

You have not neard about my master plan to obtain these items then ?

Step 1 : Buy a few apartments in santorini or a similar paradise
Step 2 : Buy a couple of Ribs or so to charter whilst I sit back and let the dosh roll in.

Step 3: prostitute myself at the Southampton Boat show

But finally the major hand I am going to deal is step 4 :

Step 4 : Send you dear Manos a quotation for the 2004 / 2005 season for the splendid new ranges from Parker poland.Your acceptance might eliviate my already substantial headache of funding my new toy ! whoops I meant demo craft...............

When I am one pound behind you can i become your friend too ?

Your ever friendly Parker dealer

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Step 4 : Send you dear Manos a quotation for the 2004 / 2005 season for the splendid new ranges from Parker poland.Your acceptance might eliviate my already substantial headache of funding my new toy ! whoops I meant demo craft...............
Seriously, IMHO Parker need to improve the deck and also the cabin design. Too 'Eastern Block' looking for my taste I'm affraid

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You'll probably do better in St Mary's but it's not too far away from the boatshow

I notice there is a very butch looking parker at Drivers Wharf at the moment is that one of yours or Andre's
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Seriously, IMHO Parker need to improve the deck and also the cabin design. Too 'Eastern Block' looking for my taste I'm affraid

Manos, Can you please explain what do you mean by "Eastern Block" looking
cos I am scratching my head and just can't come up with an answer
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I notice there is a very butch looking parker at Drivers Wharf at the moment is that one of yours or Andre's
On dry land there was a Parker 900 RS fitted with twin Optis 225 and on the water a Parker 750 Baltic. Both ribs sold by our dealer Paul Lemmer. The 750 is fitted with twin Cummins Mercruiser 1.7L TDI

I was there about 1 PM with my Seahawk 2, later continued back to LAmpton completing a trip round the IOW with my nephew Chris

Is this the rib you saw?
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