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Old 17 December 2007, 09:24   #31
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At the end of the day it's not my problem totally and I can do nothing about it other than winge, but it's spoiling a once great site.
As far as I can see, RIBnet continues to go from strength to strength and is at least as good as it has ever been. Sure, there may be some fine tuning to do, but I don't think there's a major problem is there?

Are you sure this isn't more to do with a personality clash between you and some of the other trade (or not!) members?

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Old 17 December 2007, 09:30   #32
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Awful lot of peeps have links in their sigs to bona fide businesses that don't have trade membership.
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But that has always been acceptable under the published "rules".
Yes a link to a website is generously allowed but some of the sig lines are full blown adverts so every post becomes an advert. Maybe this is acceptable for paid up trade members but not for non trade members and, anyway, I don't think its within the spirit of the rule.

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For example Riva (yes I know he is a trade member)
Don't think he is at the moment according to his profile but, as a member, it's within the rules to post in the bits and pieces section.

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Would more people prefer a zero-tolerance approach?
Yes. I think it all needs tightening up. Just look at the amount of times posters need to be pointed in the direction of a trade membership.

What annoys me is when we get spivs thinking all the members are fools. Some of them think they're so clever with the use devices such as spoof members, which on a lot of occasions are easy to spot, drawing attention to their product/service, biased info (sometimes bare faced lies) leaning towards the products they sell, cute and clever use of information hiding an advertising message, repeated posting of the same info etc etc.

I know all this would be difficult to police but I think it needs looking at before it gets out of hand.
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Are you sure this isn't more to do with a personality clash between you and some of the other trade (or not!) members?
Considering the amount of help that Stuarts given to Ribnet members over the years, often ending up out of pocket himself, thats out of order.
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Considering the amount of help that Stuarts given to Ribnet members over the years, often ending up out of pocket himself, thats out of order.
Yeah... but considering it's from a man who said...
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....I want RIBnet to be a generous place (within reason) rather than a tight money-grabbing hassly sort of place.
You need to assume he's off his Meds....
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Old 17 December 2007, 13:37   #35
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Yes a link to a website is generously allowed but some of the sig lines are full blown adverts so every post becomes an advert. Maybe this is acceptable for paid up trade members but not for non trade members and, anyway, I don't think its within the spirit of the rule.
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What annoys me is when we get spivs thinking all the members are fools. Some of them think they're so clever with the use devices such as spoof members, which on a lot of occasions are easy to spot, drawing attention to their product/service, biased info (sometimes bare faced lies) leaning towards the products they sell, cute and clever use of information hiding an advertising message, repeated posting of the same info etc etc.
Dave, are we on the same ribnet or am I just constantly missing this? I've never been tempted to buy anything as the result of a post and if I noticed a bit of a plug I'm hardly going to let it bother me. Life's too short to worry about trivia. Just swear a bit and let it pass you by.
Alternatively, I believe some anti-psychotics are effective.
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Sorry. I'm already on the maximum dose. Don't be surprised to wake up with a horses head in your bed.
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Dave, are we on the same ribnet or am I just constantly missing this? I've never been tempted to buy anything as the result of a post and if I noticed a bit of a plug I'm hardly going to let it bother me. Life's too short to worry about trivia. Just swear a bit and let it pass you by.
Alternatively, I believe some anti-psychotics are effective.
JW - I think I am in your camp on this. I have frequented other boards in the past where ghost posting (as I think it is called) was common place - I have rarely suspected this was happening on RIBnet which means it is either rare or very good. If it is going on then I would hope our more experienced members would ask sufficient questions or make not too subtle comments to make it obvious to the rest of us.
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Yes a link to a website is generously allowed but some of the sig lines are full blown adverts so every post becomes an advert. Maybe this is acceptable for paid up trade members but not for non trade members and, anyway, I don't think its within the spirit of the rule.
if they wound me up that much I would just turn off displaying of signatures.

I take your point though that sometimes there is more info in the sig than in the post - and that sometimes they are a bit OTT. On the otherhand though - it makes it totally clear and upfront the position someone is posting from (that might be a good thing - they are a PBI so at least slightly knowledgable about ribs or it might be a "bad" thing - they are trying to sell the latest rib or training course).

I, as someone who is not in the industry, would rather people were entitled to (or encouraged to) include a reference to their commercial interests than being in the dark. That is of course most important for new (or unregisterred) users who haven't quite got to grips with the whos who of ribnet.
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Sorry. I'm already on the maximum dose. Don't be surprised to wake up with a horses head in your bed.
I didn't wish to offend you although I guessed I might do.
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