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Old 04 August 2013, 17:54   #1
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Windfarm qualifications?

Spoke to a mate today, he is very excited about the prospect of Windfarm work, quoting much 's as probably wages.

He has a current Boatmaster Licence, a lost YM Theory ticket (date unknown), plently of driving experience on fishing boats & small passenger vessels, 'grey hair'.

Claims that the 'grey hair' is a sought after requirement for this industry, in preference to the much younger guys.

Is he talking drivel?
What are the current minimums required?

Someone has pointed him toward MSN 1802 & talked about STCW95, the latter being offered at Warsash for 900/5 day course.
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I'd ring the wind farm direct.
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think boatmaster is generally plenty but as above each may differ,

Pretty interested in this idea myself but i've only got one or two grey hairs which I tend to pluck on sight.
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Minimum YM Offshore Commercial but Master 200 much preferred. Boatmaster not often accepted.
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I work in the Wind Farm Sector and can tell you all that I am unaware of any operators who will accept BML for skippers. There are 2 reasons;

1. the wind farms are mostly well outside the limits of the BML's
2. the Energy Clients want to see all skippers holding at least MCA STCW 95 Master (Code Vessel) <200gt and often build this level of CoC into the charter contracts

Entry into the Sector now is based upon minimum Industry standard of holding at least STCW 95 Basic Safety Certs. There are many Training Providers who deliver these courses normally throughout the year.

From my experience anyone who has plenty of on board experience should apply to the various WFTV Operators but also note that they may well only be taken as a deck hand as the RYA Offshore Commercially Endorsed CoC plus STCW 95 Basic Safety Certs are the basic entry level for skippers (even though Clients want all skippers to Hold the MCA Master (CV) <200gt not any of the RYA Commercially Endorsed CoC's)

I know that MGN 280 (Small Commercial Vessel Code) indicates APB (CE) or even PB L2 (CE) as the minimum CoC level however the operators and their clients, from the years of experience they have of the operation of the WFTV's, have made a decision that Yachtmaster Offshore (CE) will be the minimum. Remember that the cost of these sophisticated vessels is now between 2m for a small 12m - 15m to 4.5m for a 24m vessel

Last winter the best estimate was that there were about 60 - 70 WFTV's laid up with no work which equates to about 400 crew. The best guess for this winter is about 30 - 40 vessels being laid up (about 200 crew). However best guess is that it looks as if there will be shortage of vessels and crews in winter 2016!

Hope this info helps you all with decision making
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I work in the Wind Farm Sector and can tell you all that I am unaware of any operators who will accept BML for skippers. There are 2 reasons;

1. the wind farms are mostly well outside the limits of the BML's
2. the Energy Clients want to see all skippers holding at least MCA STCW 95 Master (Code Vessel) <200gt and often build this level of CoC into the charter contracts

Entry into the Sector now is based upon minimum Industry standard of holding at least STCW 95 Basic Safety Certs. There are many Training Providers who deliver these courses normally throughout the year.

From my experience anyone who has plenty of on board experience should apply to the various WFTV Operators but also note that they may well only be taken as a deck hand as the RYA Offshore Commercially Endorsed CoC plus STCW 95 Basic Safety Certs are the basic entry level for skippers (even though Clients want all skippers to Hold the MCA Master (CV) <200gt not any of the RYA Commercially Endorsed CoC's)

I know that MGN 280 (Small Commercial Vessel Code) indicates APB (CE) or even PB L2 (CE) as the minimum CoC level however the operators and their clients, from the years of experience they have of the operation of the WFTV's, have made a decision that Yachtmaster Offshore (CE) will be the minimum. Remember that the cost of these sophisticated vessels is now between 2m for a small 12m - 15m to 4.5m for a 24m vessel

Last winter the best estimate was that there were about 60 - 70 WFTV's laid up with no work which equates to about 400 crew. The best guess for this winter is about 30 - 40 vessels being laid up (about 200 crew). However best guess is that it looks as if there will be shortage of vessels and crews in winter 2016!

Hope this info helps you all with decision making
Thanks for that.
I've worked previously (about 4 years ago) off the Dutch/German coasts, with commercially endorsed YM (Ocean as it happens + STCW95)), but not sure of current requirements to advise him.
He seems to think 2 weeks on/2 weeks off, is the regime, earing about 80k/year.
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I would suggest that the pay for 2 on 2 off will be about 40K per year in WFTV when he holds an MCA STCW 95 Master (CV) <200gt but of course it all depends upon the company that he works for and the location etc.

Without YM Offshore (CE) plus STCW 95 Basic Safety I would suggest very little chance of getting a skippers job working out of UK and no chance of working out of Germany/Denmark etc.

With a BML plus STCW 95 Basic safety Certs he might get a job as a deckhand but again this will depend upon the operators and location of the wind farm.
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Beware of very long hours and some companies attitudes - there is a lot of pressure to do the hours requested or walk.
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Beware of very long hours and some companies attitudes - there is a lot of pressure to do the hours requested or walk.
Have they not heard of STCW or MLC2006? (which is coming into force on Aug 20th) being commercial employers, they are resposible for ensuring certain hours of rest, and under MLC2006, certain conditions are met, such as hours of rest, vacation, etc etc

Basically you need to get 11 hours of rest per day minimum.
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Tonto is correct about the hours of rest as the Merchant Shipping (Hours of Rest) Regulations require;

1. at least 10 hours rest every 24 hours with a maximum of 2 breaks with one being at least 6 hours in length.
2. at least 77 hours rest every 7 days

Interestingly the only main addition in MLC 2006 as against the various ILO Conventions is the introduction of a formal grievance procedure that can end up with the Flag State. Everything else is already contained in the ILO Conventions and which, in the UK, are reflected in various Regulations etc.
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