Yet again, another vote for madness.

[Phil Chitty]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/4376460.stm

[Jono]

[Tim M]

You can ski on the Broads which are much more environmentally sensative than a huge lake this this!

[codprawn]

Yet another example of this government destroying our freedom!!!

The anti terror laws are another example - stop and search has gone from 2 or 3 people in some areas last year to 3,000 this year - give someone a new law/power and they WILL abuse it!!!

[Shaggy]

Interesting article on the miss use of existing stop and search anti-terrorism law!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4365572.stm

Shaggy

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Shaggy

Interesting article on the miss use of existing stop and search anti-terrorism law!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4365572.stm

Shaggy

Those figures are disgusting!!!

Still if you aren't doing anything wrong why should you mind being stopped and searched????

Bit like the old man at the Labour conference - how dare he speak out loud??? How dare he want freedom of speach??? Bit ironic that he was a Jew who survived the camps!!!

On a similar note the 2 coppers who have been totally cleared for shooting the man with the chair leg. What was their defence? They were doing their duty!!! Funnily enough I was reading the other day about the liberation of Belsen - that is EXACTLY what the German guards said - we were only doing our duty!!!

WORRYING!!!

[Jono]

Originally Posted by codprawn

On a similar note the 2 coppers who have been totally cleared for shooting the man with the chair leg. What was their defence? They were doing their duty!!! Funnily enough I was reading the other day about the liberation of Belsen - that is EXACTLY what the German guards said - we were only doing our duty!!!

WORRYING!!!

Interesting comparison you make there.
Two police officers made a poor decision based on the information made available to them “Irishman carrying a sawn off shotgun in a plastic bag” and camp guards, some of whom actually enjoyed torturing and killing countless human beings… Codders you really do open yer trap before thinking don’t you?

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Jono

Interesting comparison you make there.
Two police officers made a poor decision based on the information made available to them “Irishman carrying a sawn off shotgun in a plastic bag” and camp guards, some of whom actually enjoyed torturing and killing countless human beings… Codders you really do open yer trap before thinking don’t you?

I see so if a member of the public phones in with something it MUST be true???

At the end of the day those two policemen KILLED an innocent man - it was THEY who pulled the triggers - THEY were to blame!!! Not a lack of training or anything else!!!

Obviously I don't think they intended to kill an innocent man - they made a mistake - an accident - there IS a term used for that - it's called manslaughter!!!

Similar case with that so called terrorist killed on the tube - the bloke running away with the bulk jacket who must have been a suicide bomber!!!

Isn't it strange that since they have banned handguns there are more and more Police carrying firearms?

Since 1982 there have been 4 Police officers killed by guns in the UK - do those figures REALLY warrent more and more of them carrying guns???

[Jono]

Originally Posted by codprawn

I see so if a member of the public phones in with something it MUST be true???

At the end of the day those two policemen KILLED an innocent man - it was THEY who pulled the triggers - THEY were to blame!!! Not a lack of training or anything else!!!

Obviously I don't think they intended to kill an innocent man - they made a mistake - an accident - there IS a term used for that - it's called manslaughter!!!

Similar case with that so called terrorist killed on the tube - the bloke running away with the bulk jacket who must have been a suicide bomber!!!

Isn't it strange that since they have banned handguns there are more and more Police carrying firearms?

Since 1982 there have been 4 Police officers killed by guns in the UK - do those figures REALLY warrent more and more of them carrying guns???

Stop raving for a moment and THINK.. you are comparing that to the systematic torture and extermination of millions of people... I made no comment on the rights and wrongs of arming our Police nor the guilt or innocence of the two officers involved, just your ludicrous reference to genocide...

[Kernow Buoy]

Codders have to say I agree with Jono's first post, have a look at this-

"A senior officer close to the case said: "The man who gave a statement said Mr Stanley had set out to get himself shot. He seemed a credible witness but it was not possible to corroborate his evidence, not least because Mr Stanley is, of course, dead."



"Mr Stanley, who had convictions for armed robbery, grievous bodily harm and possession of drugs, was shot in Hackney, east London.

A man at the pub he had just left had telephoned the police stating that a man with an Irish accent had been in the bar with a sawn-off shotgun.

Mr Stanley, who was actually Scottish, was hit by two bullets fired by Metropolitan Police marksmen. The officers later said that they fired their guns after Mr Stanley, who was twice over the drink-driving limit, ignored a warning and swung round at them pointing the table leg in a manner that made it appear to be a gun."