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Old 27 October 2005, 21:11   #51
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Plod are rarely the sharpest tools in the box, and giving them bangsticks is just plain irresponsible.

When was the last time an armed felon was subdued by an armed policeman? Buggered if I know - however unauthorised shootings of unarmed civilians do rather seem to be all too common.
plenty of "plod" would take offence at this comment IT layabout...having spent time in the military and working closely with police on many occassions I would suggest that your'e wide of the mark by some distance. Now working in IT, I am also well aware of how sharp the IT tools are compared to your average PC...stones in glass houses my friend..

Please tell us how many times an unarmed civilian has been shot by an armed policeman in the past 5 years - I think you'll be surprised at how few the number actually is. As per my last post, if someone thinks that it is prudent to have a table leg mascurading as a gun under their jacket then they probably deserve a 9mm...

In certain military circles there is a degree of sceptisism about the training firearms police have, but I for one am glad that when I go to heathrow or get on the tube there are police officers prepared to risk life and limb for my safety and able to walk the walk if neccessary with firearms to protect our liberties. When terrorists pose a threat, unfortunately a truncheon and handcuffs may not be enough....
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In certain military circles there is a degree of sceptisism about the training firearms police have, but I for one am glad that when I go to heathrow or get on the tube there are police officers prepared to risk life and limb for my safety and able to walk the walk if neccessary with firearms to protect our liberties. When terrorists pose a threat, unfortunately a truncheon and handcuffs may not be enough....
Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY we now have a terrorist threat that didn't exsist a few years ago???
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Jono - someone should have told you the old adage about keeping silent and being thought a fool being better than speaking out and removing all doubt.

I was being ironic. I'll explain that in a pm if you like...
I rather suspect that you would be better employed spending your time learning how to interpret and express "Irony" yourself. You might also want to check out the definition of “sarcasm”. If your previous post was anything other than mindless drivel it appeared to be, then it can only have been sarcasm, not irony… or was I not paying attention to my English teacher all those years ago?… Old age.. it’s a wonderful thing
As for your reference to the, often misquoted, adage I feel you have proven it quite adequately all on your own.

Before you leap in, PD, I know it’s a split infinitive… so "go do one"..
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Jono - calm down. At your age an embolism or stroke could easily result from such high blood pressure.

Knowing your preferences I suggest you:

(1) Get Donuts round and watch all your old Rambo films together
(2) Whack off looking at pictures of the latest Ruger P97DAO - .45ACP in Guns and Ammo
(3) Put on your gimp suit and ask your boyfriend if you can play with his trucheon
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Jono - calm down. At your age an embolism or stroke could easily result from such high blood pressure.

Knowing your preferences I suggest you:

(1) Get Donuts round and watch all your old Rambo films together
(2) Whack off looking at pictures of the latest Ruger P97DAO - .45ACP in Guns and Ammo
(3) Put on your gimp suit and ask your boyfriend if you can play with his trucheon
QED..
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Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY we now have a terrorist threat that didn't exsist a few years ago???
yep, and it's got bugger all to do with the police having firearms.
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY we now have a terrorist threat that didn't exsist a few years ago???



Codders - the met were armed a long time ago- but not all of them ( 1930-1949)- as pertoday
It has nothing to do with my friends Bush and Blair- they only reacted to idiots smashing planes into buildings- they did not start it.
You must undrstand that when you go out to kill 3000+innocent people - the reaction is pretty predicable.So stop ranting on about Blair creating terroism - it realy shows a lack of intelligence or are we beginning to see the "real" codders. There is a war on friend and not many people realize it...

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Have you ever stopped to wonder WHY we now have a terrorist threat that didn't exsist a few years ago???



Codders - the met were armed a long time ago- but not all of them ( 1930-1949)- as pertoday
It has nothing to do with my friends Bush and Blair- they only reacted to idiots smashing planes into buildings- they did not start it.
You must undrstand that when you go out to kill 3000+innocent people - the reaction is pretty predicable.So stop ranting on about Blair creating terroism - it realy shows a lack of intelligence or are we beginning to see the "real" codders. There is a war on friend and not many people realize it...

Jonathan

Britain always USED to have good relations with the Middle East - I should know having lived there. British people were treated with respect - the Yanks weren't.

One of these reasons is the blind support the USA gives Israel. Another is the sheer arrogance with which they treat other people.

Before Sept 11th you could walk into any Irish bar in New York and find an IRA collection box. The USA did not seem to mind the word terrorism and did not seem to care that British people were being blown to bits by the IRA.

The USA suffered a terrible blow with Sept 11th - a blow struck by Osama Bin Laden - Al Queda.

The USA was mortally wounded - what is more so was it's pride - a superpower rendered impotent. They had to lash out - get revenge.

Where does Iraq come into all this? You tell me! They had NOTHING to do with Al Queda and nothing to do with the Sept 11th attacks. The USA persued Osama and failed - they still needed to lash out so all of a sudden WMD become the main focus.

Becuase of Tony Blair's BLIND support of George Bush we have alienated the majority of Arabs and put ourselves in the same position as the USA - a position we did NOT need to be in!!!

The attacks in London seen recently have been as a direct result of this policy - the attacks were carried out in the NAME of Al Queda rather than BY Al Queda. Compared to what Britain had to face with the IRA these attacks have been very poorly organised - if they had PROPER backing they would NOT have been mucking about with home made explosives!!!

There is more fuss and hysteria being generated now than when the IRA were detonating 4 TON bombs!!!
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One of these reasons is the blind support the USA gives Israel. Another is the sheer arrogance with which they treat other people.

Well "perfideous Albion" let them down quite a bit........Thank god for the US
The UK were too intent of pleasing the Arabs and they came up with solutions that were - to say the least un-acceptable for all parties- look at what they did to Larwence- the only guy around then who could have come up with an acceptable Middle East solution.

Anyway whats the betting that the Israelies 'settle" the irananians before you can say "shalom"--- that's when it starts to get interesting and a bible prophecy will be fulfilled...... Kindly explain with your Arab leanings ,why the president of Iran did'nt seem to mince his words

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Britain always USED to have good relations with the Middle East - I should know having lived there. British people were treated with respect - the Yanks weren't.
Don't make the error of mistaking subservience for respect...


..and did we always have "good relations" with "The Middle East" ? Examples off the top of my head are Aden.. then what about Iran? I don’t think you can say we always had “good relations”. What we had was/is relations with people who needed us and whom we needed….
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