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Old 26 October 2005, 14:53   #11
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I would like to offer the following:

having been out of the Uk for the last 40 years - I feel the necessity to offer
the following obsrvations.
Codders, nobody is trampling on your rights. If you really believe that you are hard done by in the UK -try another country. You must understand that we are living in very, very dangereous times and it involves security at all levels.
There are people out there who will stop at nothing to destroy society as we know it. The authorities, are taking a tough stand and it involves trampling on peoples so called rights. Invarably there are going to be errors of judgement, mis-carriages of justice, ect.- but it is un-advoidable. The UK has been TOO LAX and is now paying the price. I personally favour the attitude taken by the French or in my case the Belgian police- HIT FIRST AND ASK afterwards!!!

Do you remember that man who came back waving a bit of paper in the air-in 1938?- because of appeasement/ do gooders/ liberals/pipe-smoking
interlecturals -over 30.000.000 people died. I wonder who you supported then? More recently look at Bosnia- you sent in UN troops who were not allowed to use their arms- what happened - massacres. Look at Burundi- UN troops not allowed to interfere - 600.000 people brutally killed. So arm your police - but please tell them - 'dont use it' - because you may hurt somebody

COME OFF IT. and I class myself as a liberal!!!!!!!!!!! ( not the Kennedy types)

sincerely Jonathan
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Old 26 October 2005, 15:18   #12
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what is the advantage of introducing a speed limit on a perfectly good lake?
Surly it just decreases the tourism?
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Old 26 October 2005, 15:33   #13
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It does. But some cool politionsa think its' a good idea to reduce pollution and noise or something. Never mind there is less wash with a planning craft going at 20 knotts than 10!
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Old 26 October 2005, 15:36   #14
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Perahps, the athorities have detemined that people dashing around at 30+ mph endanger the security of other users??. If people want to do that .. well the sea is wide open and you can do what you like. I mean if poor Codders was snorkling around looking for the Loch Ness monster, surfaced and got hit by a water-skier at 100 mph. he would'nt be too happy!!!!!!!

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We've had this argument on ribnet before but......

surly if you had times when people could ski and codders couldnt snorkle or whatever there wouldn't be a problem. Windamere (sorry for spelling - student) is a fair treck with a boat from the sea. There are ways of wokring around it whcih really could work; it's worked on the broads therefore IT CAN work here. (In my opioion....)
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Old 26 October 2005, 15:53   #16
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surly if you had times when people could ski and codders couldnt snorkle or whatever there wouldn't be a problem

There you go Tim- got yourself a job!!!!!!!!! chief controller Lake activities!!!

Being serious for a change - met some intriguing people at Nieuwport last week- whilst trying to straighten out my back after falling 3 to 4 meters with the rib- a man and wife who have a Discovery 3 and offer thier services to the rich and wealthy by towing their yachts/ boats home for them. You dont need a discovery - you could use a better vehicle ( my Kia Sorento for example!!)- you charge them -going/coming/ waiting /demeuurage/ ect...
You could do it afer your studies...

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Originally Posted by eupa
I would like to offer the following:

having been out of the Uk for the last 40 years - I feel the necessity to offer
the following obsrvations.
Codders, nobody is trampling on your rights. If you really believe that you are hard done by in the UK -try another country. You must understand that we are living in very, very dangereous times and it involves security at all levels.
There are people out there who will stop at nothing to destroy society as we know it. The authorities, are taking a tough stand and it involves trampling on peoples so called rights. Invarably there are going to be errors of judgement, mis-carriages of justice, ect.- but it is un-advoidable. The UK has been TOO LAX and is now paying the price. I personally favour the attitude taken by the French or in my case the Belgian police- HIT FIRST AND ASK afterwards!!!

Do you remember that man who came back waving a bit of paper in the air-in 1938?- because of appeasement/ do gooders/ liberals/pipe-smoking
interlecturals -over 30.000.000 people died. I wonder who you supported then? More recently look at Bosnia- you sent in UN troops who were not allowed to use their arms- what happened - massacres. Look at Burundi- UN troops not allowed to interfere - 600.000 people brutally killed. So arm your police - but please tell them - 'dont use it' - because you may hurt somebody

COME OFF IT. and I class myself as a liberal!!!!!!!!!!! ( not the Kennedy types)

sincerely Jonathan

Been out of the UK for 40 years just about sums it up.....

People have DIED to give us our freedom - lots of them!!! And yet day by day we see those freedoms being reduced which is EXACTLY what the terrorists want!!!

As to us living in "very very dangerous times" we weren't until Mr Blair decided to lick Mr Bush's bottom!!! They are doing nothing other than conning the public into believeing it is so!!!

The IRA were probably the most professional terrorist organisation the world has ever seen. They actually attacked downing Street and at the time Mr Blair voted AGAINST new terror laws.

With the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the USSR and the reduction of hostilities with the IRA the security services were laying off staff all over the place - very convienient that all of a sudden there should be this new terror problem!!!
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I drive a German car, own a German washing machine, have a Japanese 4x4 plus several excellent Japanese outboard motors. Japanese stereo,TV and computer. German drill, sander and router in my toolshed. German touring motorcycle and Japanese motocrosser.

Sorry to sound contentious but apart from not speaking German / Japanese as a first language what else might occupation have achieved that we don't already enjoy? God alone knows but if we'd been REALLY successful after the last war we'd all be driving around in Morris Marinas with Russian stereos in our council flats.

So what if our boys in blue (or all black urban camo SWAT style outfits) whack the odd Paddy carrying a chairleg or Brazilian wearing a Puffa jacket - in the absence of a constitution that guarantees us human rights at least it keeps the heat off us locals!

As for waterskiers - anyone who enjoys a 25 knot enema in the name of fun deserves all they get...
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Old 26 October 2005, 18:28   #19
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I would like to offer the following:
Do you remember that man who came back waving a bit of paper in the air-in 1938?- because of appeasement/ do gooders/ liberals/pipe-smoking interlecturals -over 30.000.000 people died.
sincerely Jonathan
By the way - remind me of the heroic Belgian and French stand in 1939... or was it less of a stand and more of a lie down and take it?

Try the following - type "french military victories" into Google and hit I'm Feeling Lucky!
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