Originally Posted by eupa
I would like to offer the following:
having been out of the Uk for the last 40 years - I feel the necessity to offer
the following obsrvations.
Codders, nobody is trampling on your rights. If you really believe that you are hard done by in the UK -try another country. You must understand that we are living in very, very dangereous times and it involves security at all levels.
There are people out there who will stop at nothing to destroy society as we know it. The authorities, are taking a tough stand and it involves trampling on peoples so called rights. Invarably there are going to be errors of judgement, mis-carriages of justice, ect.- but it is un-advoidable. The UK has been TOO LAX and is now paying the price. I personally favour the attitude taken by the French or in my case the Belgian police- HIT FIRST AND ASK afterwards!!!
Do you remember that man who came back waving a bit of paper in the air-in 1938?- because of appeasement/ do gooders/ liberals/pipe-smoking
interlecturals -over 30.000.000 people died. I wonder who you supported then? More recently look at Bosnia- you sent in UN troops who were not allowed to use their arms- what happened - massacres. Look at Burundi- UN troops not allowed to interfere - 600.000 people brutally killed. So arm your police - but please tell them - 'dont use it' - because you may hurt somebody
COME OFF IT. and I class myself as a liberal!!!!!!!!!!! ( not the Kennedy types)
Been out of the UK for 40 years just about sums it up.....
People have DIED to give us our freedom - lots of them!!! And yet day by day we see those freedoms being reduced which is EXACTLY what the terrorists want!!!
As to us living in "very very dangerous times" we weren't until Mr Blair decided to lick Mr Bush's bottom!!! They are doing nothing other than conning the public into believeing it is so!!!
The IRA were probably the most professional terrorist organisation the world has ever seen. They actually attacked downing Street and at the time Mr Blair voted AGAINST new terror laws.
With the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the USSR and the reduction of hostilities with the IRA the security services were laying off staff all over the place - very convienient that all of a sudden there should be this new terror problem!!!