Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 10 May 2004, 16:23   #11
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Portchester, Hants.
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 584
Send a message via AIM to Aging Youth Send a message via Yahoo to Aging Youth
New Car

Hi Daniel,

How could you even consider another make of vehicle, it has to be another RR. P38A model with TD5 engine suberb.

What weight are you towing fully loaded? Remembering the 80% rule for safe towing. Is the Volvo heavy enough for that?

I must admit I hate all volvo's but that is because I am an Ex Biker.

Happy Hunting.

P.s. Don't forget to call me re:-Treasure Hunt Thanks.
__________________

__________________
Aging Youth
Aging Youth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 16:53   #12
RIBnet supporter
 
bogib's Avatar
 
Country: Iceland
Town: Reykjavik
Boat name: Cheesee
Make: Seaquel 600 XS
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 275 Verado
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,959
Send a message via Skype™ to bogib
Have you consider Toyota LC90 (the smaller Land Cruiser) over here this vehicle is very popular for towing and also for offroad uses.
First picture shows the LC90 modification on 33" tires
Second picture shows LC90 modification on 35" tires
Third picture shows LC90 modification on 38" tires
Final picture shows standard LC90
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	33%20lc90%20st.jpg
Views:	208
Size:	10.9 KB
ID:	5635   Click image for larger version

Name:	35%20lc90%20st.jpg
Views:	189
Size:	18.3 KB
ID:	5636   Click image for larger version

Name:	38%20lc90%20st.jpg
Views:	206
Size:	38.7 KB
ID:	5637   Click image for larger version

Name:	1487size300x400.jpg
Views:	197
Size:	14.7 KB
ID:	5638  
__________________
bogib is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 17:09   #13
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Port Logan
Boat name: Red Fox
Make: Zodiac Pro 500
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp
MMSI: 232004329
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 322
Had a white T5, went like a bullet and burnt off bikers so that could be why Aging Youth don't like em! Being white most cars slowed down when I appeared in the rear view mirror and then moved over. Had to put new tyres on every 18000miles, but enjoyed every minute of it. Sold it for a Discovery cos I couldnt see it pulling up the beach with a rib on the back...but the 4x4 version should be fine if you rope it across the softer sand if indeed it is a beach you launch from. The Volvo wont even notice the rib on the back! But just make sure you remember you have one on! Bit like driving a rib...you have a smile on your face all the time.
At the end of the day it's your choice...just my vote would be for the Volvo, fast, safe, roomy and bugs a lot of folk as you fly by (including bikers). I had the optional extra of having the rear wiper installed in the inside of the rear window...to wipe the golden retriever off.
__________________
Red Fox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 17:16   #14
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aging Youth
Remembering the 80% rule for safe towing. Is the Volvo heavy enough for that?
Is any car? I think that you have to accept that once a boat's on the back, the 80% rule is out of the window. 135% for me. Rouge Wave has re-named it the 300% rule.
Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 17:53   #15
Member
 
Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 2,097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aging Youth
Hi Daniel,

How could you even consider another make of vehicle, it has to be another RR. P38A model with TD5 engine suberb.
Ah yes. A stat from 2000 when I worked at LR that sticks in my mind was that an owner of a P38A (Thats the last RR before the current BM engineered one) had a 50% likelyhood of using the free breakdown and recovery service within the 3 years of warranty.

So not a car I personally would suggest as a second hand buy!

I also agree with Richard that the 80% rule whilst being good practice is impractical for big RIBS. What is sensible is the meatiest heavyest tow vehicle practical. For a 7.5m+ RIB thats a decent 4x4 e.g. LR/Disco/RR, Trooper, Landcruiser, Grand Cherokee etc. A RAV4 of other softroader wont cut the mustard.

For Daniel and a smaller RIB a 4x4 estate car would seem to fit the bill so T5 AWD good idea or A6 Quattro (as prev. suggested.). Other alternative could be Subaru Outback 3.0L but not as screamy fast as the T5 or Audi!
__________________
Alan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 18:01   #16
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
I had a look at the A6 Quattro on Audi's website - impressive at 1900kg rating on 12% incline. For "standard" cars you've gotta go Merc (2100kg) to better that (but loose the 4x4 option) unless anyone knows better? Couldn't find anything about Volvo on their glossy marketing website.
Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 18:08   #17
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Ballistic
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam HPDI 250
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,835
Thanks for your input guys... some of you are missing the point here i feel - my requirments are to replace nearly all if not all of my cars - so a 'normal' 4x4 simply does not fit the bill, Rangie's, Landcruisers etc. are not options.

A powerfull (as fast as poss.) 4x4 estate is what i need.

I think Phil has hit the nail on the head when he said a serious downpoint of Volvo's is their depreciation - a 27k car worth 3k a few years down the line... that's the kind of car i want...over a 20k discount!!! Having looked into it i can't get so much for my money with an Audi.

Tappy if you really are going to buy a A6 Quattro estate 2.8t then i think i'll get the AWD T5 and then we can compair directly . Alternatively (and more likely ) is letting you buy the Audi, me buying another 280bhp MR2 turbo and simply stealing the Audi all the time

Kevin, i havent forgotten you, i'll try and call tommorow, but all is in hand.

Thanks again guys, keep the comments coming but remember a "real" 4x4 is not what i am looking for here
__________________
Daniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 19:48   #18
Member
 
Country: Ireland
Town: Carigaline/Baltimore
Boat name: XS-600
Make: XS-Ribs
Length: 6m +
Engine: Merc Optimax 150 XL
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 682
Quote:
For "standard" cars you've gotta go Merc (2100kg) to better that (but loose the 4x4 option) unless anyone knows better?
Yep. Merc have jumped on the 4x4 saloon/estate bandwagon, so you can now get a Merc E-class 4matic as they call it. This would ideally replace all your cars, you could even bring it to Brabus for them to drop in a 6.3 litre V12, 640 bhp and 762lb.ft!!! of torque won't have any trouble towing anything in one of these!! Only problem is the price

I'd go for a used Volvo T5 and with the extra cash you'd save on the Audi, fit a chip and Boost controller and some VERY BIG BRAKES!!
__________________
Steve G
If In Doubt, Go Flat Out!!
swginn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 May 2004, 19:53   #19
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: West London
Boat name: Asp
Make: A BLACK Stealthly Metzeler
Length: 4m + really stealthy
Engine: Johnson 70hp VRO - not steathly at all!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 231
4x4 estate car"!"

Daniel,

So you are looking for a Audi based car without the Audi price. Boy, this is so easy....

A SKODA

The 4x4 Octavia 1.8T has all the Audi running gear minus the price tag. It will also push out 180hp (with just a chip change) although I believe you can get a reliable 200hp & this will give you quite a shock. 16K brand new & VERY LITTLE DEPRECIATION.

Try 1 - you might even like it.

Oh, try to get in the Audi first - you will hardly notice a difference, internally & externally.

Pete
__________________
Suzuki416 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 May 2004, 04:47   #20
Member
 
Richard B's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by Suzuki416
A SKODA
Hey Pete, I heard that people throw everything except the wheels away and then fit the wheels to the trailer!
__________________

Richard B is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 21:38.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.