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Old 31 January 2007, 17:54   #11
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Yes DX10 will only be available on Vista. The whole driver/graphics/DX system in Vista has been changed and a port to XP won't be possible.
Its gonna be a money spinner then.

Might be time for OpenGL to get version 3.0 out.
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I don't really see it as being a problem. All the hardcore game enthusiasts, of which there appear to be a lot, won't mind buying Vista. If they'll spend £1000+ on two GeForce 8800 series graphics cards on launch day, a couple of hundred for Vista isn't going to stop them.

All the new games will be written for, and probably require Vista anyway. It was the same with the move from Windows 98/ME, all the new games required XP.
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We WILL object to Vista - not paying for it but using it. To many barriers in the way. Some people are saying it's going to be Microsoft's death rattle......
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XP is good as a computer interface. I'm running XP 64 Pro and very happy now the drivers are available. I haven't had to reformat since I built this PC 18 months ago and its very, very rare the PC crashes.

But I would like Direct X 10 and I would like a NVidea 8 series Graphics card. Oh and the games to go along with it.

I'm not planning on doing anything major with this or a new PC until next winter. Hopefully by then things will have settled down.

Having said that I have seen Windows Vista advertised for under 60 quid which isn't bad, if your building a new system.

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...SearchMode=any

I've got an upgrade voucher for one of my PC's. Time to dig it out now I think.
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I have been very very dissapointed with Vista- switched back to xp pro. The
biggest problem for me was ex7- although I was running the beta edition.
Anyway - its always best to wait 6 months before plunging into anything "new" from ms. - and this from a fervent MS supporter.

I have been so deceived - that I am now planning to go to a Macbook with os9. It just seems that you dont have the problems you get with MS.

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We WILL object to Vista - not paying for it but using it. To many barriers in the way. Some people are saying it's going to be Microsoft's death rattle......

With all due respect Codprawn - have you actually used Vista?

All the Microsoft bashing is getting really boring. People like picking at things just because its Microsoft. There was a BBC news story today about voice recognition being a security threat - people could record mp3s to format your hard drive and delete documents - what a load of b*****ks, technically possible...but, ffs.

What are these barriers you're taking about?


Just thought of my main gripe with Vista: They have removed native support for Tape Backup Drives - no more NTBackup. So anyone with a tape drive will have to buy 3rd party software. It will be the same with Windows Server Longhorn too - which will be a pain for small businesses.
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ex7? Exchange 2007?
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no internet explorer 7. just a load of ****

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With all due respect Codprawn - have you actually used Vista?

All the Microsoft bashing is getting really boring. People like picking at things just because its Microsoft. There was a BBC news story today about voice recognition being a security threat - people could record mp3s to format your hard drive and delete documents - what a load of b*****ks, technically possible...but, ffs.
What are these barriers you're taking about?
Just thought of my main gripe with Vista: They have removed native support for Tape Backup Drives - no more NTBackup. So anyone with a tape drive will have to buy 3rd party software. It will be the same with Windows Server Longhorn too - which will be a pain for small businesses.

Microsoft bashing getting boring? For you maybe but I think it only fair for people to know the sorts of problems they will face - I didn't realise I was the only person to bash Microsoft.....

No I have not used it yet but that doesn't mean I am not familiar with it's structure and the problems it contains. I COULD install it tonight but have no desire to do so - none whatsoever!!!
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Microsoft bashing getting boring? For you maybe but I think it only fair for people to know the sorts of problems they will face - I didn't realise I was the only person to bash Microsoft.....

No I have not used it yet but that doesn't mean I am not familiar with it's structure and the problems it contains. I COULD install it tonight but have no desire to do so - none whatsoever!!!

Come on then enlighten us, what problems will people with Vista face? So far you haven't really pointed out anything, even though you started the thread.
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