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12 June 2011, 11:29
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
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Steel framed garages
Next summer I'm going to be building a new garage plus it will be my new workshop space.
I'm toying with the idea of a steel framed/clad building rather than a timber framed building which is more normal here. Blocks are not an option due to high cost here - £6 per block!
Specwise it needs to fit in four vehicles (Defender 110 or equivalent length) and one side needs to be able to take Seawolf when I need it to, so the size will be around 10m x 12m with two large roller doors in one of the short sides, doors will probably be a 3m x 3m aperture to get the boat inside. It will be sited in a windy spot (in a windy country) so needs to be pretty robust - think Scottish islands sort of climate.
Googling it there are dozens of suppliers, all seem to say much the same sort of thing, so I wondered what experience people on here had of any particular suppliers? The only 'different' one seems to be Miracle Span but I'm not convinced about the look of their buildings though I expect they are strong - they apparently use them in Antarctica and I know there are some here.
It isn't going to be the permanent undercover storage for Seawolf so no major concerns about salt water and corrosion of the steelwork - I have other plans for storage under cover so this is just to get her in as and when maintenance work is needed.
Thoughts please 
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12 June 2011, 14:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
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Are the concrete sectional garages no good ??they have steel frames and roof, double glazed windows. Just a thought.
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12 June 2011, 15:34
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Never come across them here, but having had a quick look, I suspect the freight cost will be prohibitive as freight is charged by volume and I imagine precast panels would be fairly bulky?
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12 June 2011, 15:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
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Why bother with a steel frame? A well built timber frame clad in coated steel box profile would be spot on. Valley fix self drilling fixings would make the build very quick. Ideally. 3/4 courses of block off of the slab would be good to keep the ends of the steel sheets up out of splashing rain.
You may need either steel or block columns to mount the roller shutter door on. 
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12 June 2011, 16:04
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Town: midlands
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Make: honwave
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does it have to be new? occasionally you find steel farm barns on ebay including sheets .
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12 June 2011, 16:17
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Originally Posted by TIMO
does it have to be new? occasionally you find steel farm barns on ebay including sheets .
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With free del. to the FIs? 
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12 June 2011, 16:20
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possibly not  but there are bargains to be had .Merely suggesting another route . 
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12 June 2011, 18:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Why bother with a steel frame? A well built timber frame clad in coated steel box profile would be spot on.
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That's the other option. My existing garage at my old house is timber clad and the maintenance overhead is something I can do without so the cladding will be plastic coated steel regardless, and a timber frame is easier to line inside with ply for tool boards etc. Downside is the fire risk when using it as a workshop (in other words welding and grinding in it) but that's not a big problem. I'm not sure how the costs compare, that's probably the biggest deciding factor.
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13 June 2011, 01:37
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Looking for something to keep the water and wind out, no? How about aluminum siding? No corrosion issues (well, less, anyway), and lighter than steel.
jky
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13 June 2011, 07:18
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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Our last two workshops were Reid Steel buildings, very strong and quick to put up.
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13 June 2011, 08:07
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How about aluminum siding? jky
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How about "Hey, asshole! This is the ultimate "f**k you"! I just poked your wife!" ?? 
'Tinmen', great film.
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13 June 2011, 09:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Looking for something to keep the water and wind out, no? How about aluminum siding? No corrosion issues (well, less, anyway), and lighter than steel.
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Sadly in a salt water environment, aluminium doesn't really last a lot better than PCS. We had a roof on a house out on the farm (100 yards from sea) which rotted through at about the 20 year mark and have seen others the same. They tend to go around the fixing holes, looks OK and suddenly you realise it is paper thin and you can poke your finger through it!
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13 June 2011, 10:05
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Quote:
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which rotted through at about the 20 year mark.
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Only 20 years!! Did you demand your money back?
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13 June 2011, 16:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
They tend to go around the fixing holes, looks OK and suddenly you realise it is paper thin and you can poke your finger through it!
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Aluminum would be paper thin to start with...
Luck finding a suitable and affordable option.
jky
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