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Old 15 April 2005, 09:38   #71
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have you noticed how much slower 30MPH is these days? my first car back in 1972 (a Hillman imp) when doing 30mph used to rattle & shake so much it felt like more like 70mph, where as my Mondeo at 30mph feels more like walking speed.
...........the trouble. Sound proofing, engine refinement, decent road surfaces, wider roads along with having become used to speed, make 30mph feel too slow.
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.......for most of the Middle East, India, Pakistan and other such under developed markets.
...you can add Italy and Greece to that list of 3rd world countries that sometimes require payment of a "fine"..
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.......for most of the Middle East, India, Pakistan and other such under developed markets.


In Moscow they have a designated diplomatic lane running through the centre of most central Moscow streets. If you're caught using it you're fined. We use it all the time - the agent drives a big black Camry - but if the cops recognise your plates are not right, they stop you. $10 later any you're on your way.
I believe Tony Blair also has one of these on the M4!!!

Basically when HE was caught using the bus lane(yes on a motorway) it wasn't because HE was pissed off about having to queue it was for "security" reasons!!!

Wether it was because he was about to be attacked by Al Queda or angry motorists I am not quite sure!!!
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...........the trouble. Sound proofing, engine refinement, decent road surfaces, wider roads along with having become used to speed, make 30mph feel too slow.
Whilst I would agree with you on some of these things I also ride a motorcycle & the bit about decent road surfaces, wider roads is in no way true. A lot of roads are being made narrower round my way what with introducing bus lanes, curb outs at bus stops & wider foot paths that spend 80% of there time empty. And as for decent road surfaces I’ve had smother rides on our 5.5m Assault in a force 6 off the south coast!
They have just resurfaced a section of good smooth road at Greenwich, now the drains & manhole covers are now 2-3” below road height & every join has a nice lip. Well done Greenwich!
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............and all fellow riders - yes I'm one also. I could not agree more when 2 wheels are invloved. I was thinking more about motorways, dual carrigeways. Thankfully, around Manchester we don;t suffer as bad from pedestrian walkways, cycle lanes and bus lanes as you guys in the south. With regard to bus lanes - I think I'd be reasonably ok is saying there are very very few around here.
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speed a contributing factor in most road accidents?

http://www.speed-trap.co.uk/Facts&Fi...gures_Home.htm interesting reading here, look at the TRL stuff have way down ‘…….What this means is that in 7.3% of the accidents, speed was one of many factors, and in only 6% of the accidents was it a definite causal factor’. Only 6% What can you say Des
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Sorry for the delay in replying, im only limited to 56mph Have all you lot had friday afternoon off???????

Anyway, Lorries tailgateing no excuse for it whatsoever, unless youre in a hurry and tryin to do the slip stream thing Most times you cant pull in to lane two on a M/way cos the muppetts allready there dont look any further than the end of there bonnet. It pains me to say that some of my so called "proffesional" collegues are the worst drivers on the road. I had to have a go at one the other night cos he was being stupid. As for being limited, yes it can get frustrating but you learn to sit back engage the cruise control, put the kettle on ( ) and slot an ac/dc cd in the stereo. That way you dont have an heart attack or a GBH conviction cos someone has pissed you off.

As I said at the start of this thread, if the government insist on this form of generating revenue, then they should put it back in to training.

Now being let off by the plod. Allways. Why?? cos I used to ride out on me GSX-R with the notts force instructor who was allways tooled up with his Ducati and his warrant card

Dont get me wrong, after years of driving rally cars, riding fast bikes, the last being a Honda Blackbird, driving a vectra sri, I love speed, its the best. But there is a time and a place. I am a firm believer in training. I passed the IAM test and went on to become a Senior observer for bikes, and I still believe that this is the best education any motorist can have. Try it, you might like it

Any way I'll be on the M11 at approx 11.30 on monday heading for chelmsford, I'll try not to hold you all upp

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Any way I'll be on the M11 at approx 11.30 on monday heading for chelmsford, I'll try not to hold you all upp
Good on you for taking it all in such good humour, Martin - we did give you boys a bit of a pasting Would have expected nothing more from a fellow biker
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‘…….What this means is that in 7.3% of the accidents, speed was one of many factors, and in only 6% of the accidents was it a definite causal factor’. Only 6% What can you say Des
What I'll say about those figures is that in relation to fatal/serious accidents they are totally irrelevant!
That said I agree with them, sure driver error is the main cause of the accident but it's the speed of the resultant accident that does the damage,anyone been on the dodgems recently? that's a recipe for carnage surely, actively encouraging you to ram into each other in a vehicle, and why isn't it carnage? because your restricted in your speed.
Imagine that every vehicle in the Uk was restricted to 5 mph, how many fatal accidents do you think there would be? I know thats a ludicrous and ridiculous suggestion (and after all it would only save about 3,500 lives a year, )
Now don't get me wrong I think the placement of some speed cameras is a scandal, if they where there to warn/discourage speeding they should all be well signposted with countdown markers rather than behind road signs on revenue raising straight safe sections, my point however is simple
-Speed Kills-
Now get out there and give that Rib a thrashing
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