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Old 18 January 2011, 07:28   #151
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Nothing against you guys it's just the feeling is that part of the fun is the planning and getting there under our own steam rather than tagging along.
There is no danger of tagging, I have tried wrangling these lot and herding cats is one of the kinder expressions.

And yes, I went and did it. I signed up to SBnR! I am so weak.
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Nothing against you guys it's just the feeling is that part of the fun is the planning and getting there under our own steam rather than tagging along.
I couldn't agree more. Part of the pleasure of owning a boat is being independant and having the ability do what you want when you want. I think what Oliver and others are getting at, is that we are a good friendly community and we don't feel it is right for people to just quietly follow our thread and then turn up without having contributed anything to the communal planning process. I'm not suggesting for a minute that that is what is happening though, because you are obvioulsy a serious and dedicated bunch of boaties as well.
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I think what Oliver and others are getting at, is that we are a good friendly community and we don't feel it is right for people to just quietly follow our thread and then turn up without having contributed anything to the communal planning process. I'm not suggesting for a minute that that is what is happening though, because you are obvioulsy a serious and dedicated bunch of boaties as well.
You have a way with words far more subtle than mine

It is a free world, but a massive amount of planning goes into this trip. I have a very minor role, but even just emailing the dutch and french about setting it all up takes quite a bit of time. For Martin it is a huge amount of work. Despite all the banter, we are a friendly lot (I think). I was just trying to make the point that when you've got ten boats in the frame to come then it all works great to go on your own, but when on the day three turn up you may be a little dismayed to have elected not to join us. And anyway, there's no tagging along, last year we had just as many "stiffys" as hard boats I think?

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Yup. Lessons learnt from watching others make a tit of themselves .
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Yup. Lessons learnt from watching others make a tit of themselves .


P.S. For anyone interested, here is the album of pics from last year. The Dutch and French both seemed quote turned onto the idea when they'd seen how much fun we had

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You have a way with words far more subtle than mine

It is a free world, but a massive amount of planning goes into this trip. I have a very minor role, but even just emailing the dutch and french about setting it all up takes quite a bit of time. For Martin it is a huge amount of work.
All points well made and if I've offended anyone I apologise. It certainly was not intended. I am fully aware of how much goes into planning such events and, were we to join you, we would make our impact as light as possible by both helping with the planning and effort and by being self dependant. As it is, the concensus from our lot is tending towards independance, mostly as it is the first channel crossing for most and the sense of acheivement will be much greater for them if they make it work for themselves.

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From what I've seen on here I'm sure you are all perfectly friendly, nothing wrong with banter, it's a sign of a healthy forum If you want some real antagonism have a look on the YBW forums, blimey, knives drawn as soon as a post is made

Anyway, as I said earlier I'm sure we will cross paths at some stage, with a merry wave and hopefully a beer somewhere.
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if I've offended anyone I apologise
Anyone that is easily offended went off in the huff ages ago, probably to the YBW forum as you say

You have total flexibility, if the other dates dont pan out or the numbers drop for some unknown reason you can always bundle in. Nothing is in stone until the short-range weather forecasts come in anyway.

I am quite happy to do what I can from here in any case, the more cruises the better!
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What Mart said. No offence taken, it's just I think we're trying to avoid what happend last year in one instance. And I'm definitly not trying to stop you doing it yourselves, just asking you not to rock up randomly on the day if you do join us
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and, were we to join you, we would make our impact as light as possible
I'm hoping you will join us. Maybe to keep your independance you might elect to travel down on a different day. You'll get a warm welcome whether it's Alderney or Jersey that you visit (sorry can't speak for Guernsey but I'm sure they'd be friendly too in their own way ). If nothing more, there will be lots of like minded people to talk to and discuss the crossing over a beer.
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What Mart said. No offence taken, it's just I think we're trying to avoid what happend last year in one instance. And I'm definitly not trying to stop you doing it yourselves, just asking you not to rock up randomly on the day if you do join us
Fair do's.
If we do turn up on the day we'll bring plenty of beer as compensation
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