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Old 10 December 2011, 06:44   #11
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But there are thousands of consignments that are sent overseas. Checking every single consignment just isn't physically possible. What else can they do?
Some of these stolen outboards will be hidden in containers, or 'added' to a legitimate consignment for shipping. The point I was making was regards stolen outboards in a van, the one that was stopped by Swedish authorities.

What's needed is intel, but this kind of crime is off the radar for UK border and customs - as they target drugs, money, illegal immigrants, etc.

I don't see anything happening in this area, apart from insurance premiums going up. At least Yamaha have made in-roads with the development of their Y-Cop security system for outboards (equivalent of a car immobiliser).
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Old 10 December 2011, 15:03   #12
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They can check things because that's their job. We've all been busy, and we still have to get the job done. Builders don't stop halfway through a job just because another one has turned up. Oh, yes, they do actually. Maybe being busy is just a pain when it comes to doing what one is paid to do?
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Oh yes, and it's our money that they're not using for what it's being given to them for, but it's our money that they're allowing to be scurried over our borders.
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No excuse, do the job..........am I sounding jaded and unreasonable or right? I understand it's a tough job, but that's what it is.......a job, so it needs doing.
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You cold argue the same for stolen motorbikes, cars, washing machines, drugs, alcohol, money. The list is endless.

What makes outboards so special ? Yes they've a job to do with "our money" but the number of outboards leaving the country is a drop in the ocean compared to the number of drugs coming in - given the choice the majority of the UK tax payer (including me) would prefer the resource they have to be put towards the "priority" issues first. As a consequence if the find a sack full of boats/outboards all the better!

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You are right, and if we, the outboard owners, are the lowest priority then fine. But I reckon that the money from our outboards, motorbikes etc., goes to fuel the drug running anyway. I'm sure the outboards aren't nicked to satisfy the leisure market in the Balkans. Any dodgy border crossing paints a bigger picture surely. We need to be watertight. 100%. The reason some see a gap is because there is a gap. Outboards full of cocaine that are "only 8 HP outboards"?.......not an excuse. Also that because they are below a value perceived as "EXCISE THRESHOLD" so will not be investigated, doesn't mitigate the crime.
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I'm with you on this, but reckon that small catches lead to bigger bags. Simply because that's the knee-jerk reaction that simple minds of crims allow them to work. They are testing the channels, proving their worth........and opening them up for bigger trades
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What I'm saying is that is a disconnect between the crimes committed and the blind eye turned to it to focus upon press generating politicising. The same happened with motorbikes, and they're getting up to speed with that. In fact they have the motorbike thing nearly nailed. I hope we can fix the marine issue soon too.
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Chaps, I'm backing out of this discussion as I feel it's becoming too political and no longer in the feel of the forum. I do feel this needs airing but not on RIBNET.
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