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Old 11 July 2009, 10:49   #21
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Update on the scum that nicked the RIB

The people that did this were obviously organised. Both the hitch lock and the wheel clamp, were `torched' off. We have found the locks scattered around the garden!
The police forensic guy that came, said he had never seen any similar method of removal [there are some curious deformities on the shackle] in all his years of investigating. I am intending to take some photos and post them on the site later.

Have spoken to a number of folk and it seems that no matter what steps we had taken to secure the boat, if they were that determined it wouldn't have stopped them! The advise is to put as many barriers in the way to stop the thieves getting to your kit. The more locks etc they have to break, the longer they are on the scene, the higher the risk of getting caught.

I know it is too late now, but we are taking a serious look at our general security arrangements to see how we can improve protection and reduce risk.

A small point, we spoke to a well known trailer supplier and they offered a good bit of info, concerning the hitch lock. We fitted one with a large external hoop, which of course gave easy access for the thieves. The better design, is the type that fits up into the socket, which you then use an allen key to expand within the socket, then put the key lock into the hole. I guess they might be able to drill the lock out, but am sure this will take longer than torching the hoop!

grateful for any bright ideas.
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Old 11 July 2009, 10:57   #22
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Can't offer any better security advice (except a bloody big dog!) but I hope your insurance sorts you out soon and things start to look up for you with regards to RIBing!
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A small point, we spoke to a well known trailer supplier and they offered a good bit of info, concerning the hitch lock. We fitted one with a large external hoop, which of course gave easy access for the thieves. The better design, is the type that fits up into the socket, which you then use an allen key to expand within the socket, then put the key lock into the hole. I guess they might be able to drill the lock out, but am sure this will take longer than torching the hoop!

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That's all well and good till they put a heavy chain through your A frame and shackel this to their towbar.

If they want it they'll probably get it in the end.
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Old 11 July 2009, 13:30   #24
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Having had lawnmowers stolen from outbuildings at home, I recently fitted a CCTV system which wasn't ruinously expensive. There is an argument that this does nothing except give you a video of your stuff being nicked, but it is evidence from which a conviction can be secured. It might also put some people off trying to take your things too.

In terms of protecting a boat on a driveway, I wonder if a removable/lockable post set in concrete would be of any use?

I'm out a couple of times this week and will definitely be keeping an eye open as I also have Ribeye...
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Having had lawnmowers stolen from outbuildings at home, I recently fitted a CCTV system which wasn't ruinously expensive. There is an argument that this does nothing except give you a video of your stuff being nicked, but it is evidence from which a conviction can be secured. It might also put some people off trying to take your things too.

In terms of protecting a boat on a driveway, I wonder if a removable/lockable post set in concrete would be of any use?

I'm out a couple of times this week and will definitely be keeping an eye open as I also have Ribeye...
CCTV wouldn't be an option in most residental areas. I have an eye set in the concrete driveway which is secured by a motorcycle chain to the trailer. But this is more to proove to the insurance company that I took every precaution in protecting my boat so they have no excuse to not pay out. As for the post Idea, it's a real good un. But again if they want it, then it won't stand in the theiving scums way either.
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Old 11 July 2009, 17:08   #26
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I hope you get it back i feel for you.

Here a vid on how the shites can get away with your pride and joy,ok it not a boat but all the same its a bloody cheek these can get away with it.
The vid is 10 mins long from what i can gather there was 2 wheel locks alarm and a post...

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Horrendous. The boat looks fantastic. Hopefully everything goes okay with the insurance.

Given this has happened, it's maybe worth looking at an alternative way of securing it, such as dry-stack, or house it in a large garage. More often than not, what was an oppotunistic 'scout' by potential thieves will turn into a full-recce. Did you have leaflets delivered a couple of weeks prior to the theft (not via Royal Mail), or cold-calling from a stranger? It's all a front to get a closer look at the job in hand. I honestly hope those bu**ers get caught.

There has even been suggestions of fitting a tracker-device. Something I would consider for a 20K+ boat.

Good luck.
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The people that did this were obviously organised. Both the hitch lock and the wheel clamp, were `torched' off. We have found the locks scattered around the garden!
The police forensic guy that came, said he had never seen any similar method of removal [there are some curious deformities on the shackle] in all his years of investigating. I am intending to take some photos and post them on the site later.
Using a portapak oyx/ acetalene with a gas axe is now very common for the 'Pikey' scum, it's silent and will cut the toughest of metals in second, they just gas axe the clamp etc & triple-lock ball hitch off and chain it to the back of a tranny van.
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Old 14 July 2009, 07:57   #29
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Sit tight, after they've run it in a bit a rough water they'll probably bring it back.
I think you will find that this was sarcasm and not optimism.

Sorry to hear about the theft of your boat, i hope you get things sorted quickly one way or the other.
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Using a portapak oyx/ acetalene with a gas axe is now very common for the 'Pikey' scum, it's silent and will cut the toughest of metals in second, they just gas axe the clamp etc & triple-lock ball hitch off and chain it to the back of a tranny van.
the only thing that deters pikeys is dogs barking, thats why pikey sites are always littered with dogs, they will nick dogs as well if they dont bark at strangers, our lab turns into the hound of the baskervilles at the sight of anyone new but if she knows you she is soft as grease
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