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Old 24 November 2012, 03:27   #21
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David.

Apply for a "small equipment grant" from Sport England. Simple application process and they will give you up to 10k to spend on equipment. The good thing about this money is that you don't have to match fund like a lot if other funds. You can buy 2nd hand safety boats otherwise all other purchases have to be new.
12 months ago my local scout group got the full 10k which bought them (all new) - 2x rigiflex 360's (Jaffas) with Yamaha 15 outboards and trailers with all the safety kit they need inc flares etc. I think it cost them about 1k which basically covered the trailers and safety kit. They got a lot for their 1k!

You can apply for the same grant every 2 years (maybe every year but I can't remember) which has allowed this group to buy 2 Laser Bahia, 3 Laser Vago and 4 Picos all with trolleys covers etc and multi stacking road trailers over the last 5 years in addition to the Jaffas.

If you get sponsorship from companies etc you can also apply for 'sports match' funding from Sport England which doubles your money.

Plenty of money out there to pay for things without using much if your own money if you fill in the forms and say the right things.

PM me if you want more info.

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Old 29 November 2012, 12:42   #22
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Thanks for the encouragement Graham. I'll go for getting a grant I think. I'll probably ask for one of the new Rigiflex 4700 Newmatics as it is plated for 10, but not too large. It looks like I can ask for 20k in Wales, but I am not sure that it is an advantage to ask for all of it. Given that the list price for the Rigiflex is 5k and I need an engine and trailer, I expect it will be over 10k. (If anyone reading this wants to do me a quote for a package, that would be great!) Are there any significant alternatives that I should be considering?

In the mean time I have my eye on an old Narwal (!) Rib to get experience and logged hours.

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Old 30 November 2012, 06:02   #23
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If you end up "sans grant" I have a part share in an old 1972 Johnson 20 if you can find a cheap hull for it.

Does need a service, but goes & pumps water.

Longhsaft, works with tiller or remotes. Has a starter, bur we removed it for hernia reducing reasons! (Used to have to carry it 200yds to the boat) Will supply with or refit it if you want electric start.

Looking for Somewhere in the order of 200.
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Old 30 November 2012, 12:20   #24
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Thank you for the offer of the cheap engine. I will certainly keep it in mind.

The grant application is likely to take quite some time.

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If you are going for a rigiflex don't go for the 4.7m. It's not set up as a safety boat, go for the newmatic 400 as we have done.

Used it in the Jubilee pageant back in June and it handled the (lumpy) conditions rather well and is also fantastic upriver where we do most of our work.

Let me know if you need any help/advice about the Rigiflexes. We've got 3.6 and 4m newmatics. BHG marine are also fantastic for advice/support.

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Given that the list price for the Rigiflex is 5k and I need an engine and trailer, I expect it will be over 10k. (If anyone reading this wants to do me a quote for a package, that would be great!) Are there any significant alternatives that I should be considering?
There are a few alternatives you should be considering (not necessarily any better [I haven't tested them all and its subjective anyway], and may or may not be cheaper, but worth looking at)

- Funyak 390 (Tiller, Bench console or jockey console versions available). Goes fine with a 20HP but a 25 or 30 HP might be better if you are looking at fully loading it. A complete package with all your accessories (anchor, ropes, flares, VHF etc) should be possible within 10k. Morton boats is the English reseller; Atlantic Focus in Inverness is the Scottish one.

- Funyak 460 - if you want bigger. Not "RIB styled" but seem to be quite popular as a safety boat.

- Mac Boats (UK distributors are Marine Revolution in Dundee). Really nice plastic boats, but more expensive than the Funyaks. Their attack 360 would be a good small rescue boat.

- Steadyboat - Sweedish manufacturer of rib like boats: seen them and look OK.

- Local rescue group use one of these for flood rescue type work: The Zegul zegul.se - zegul Resources and Information. This website is for sale! which disassembles for easy transport (fits on roofrack)

- Pioner in Norway - particular the Pioner multi. Pretty classic plastic rescue boat - good for casualty recovery with fold down front. Will be pricey though.

There was someone started doing something similar based in Wales IIRC, but I have forgotten the name. They had a review in Boat Mart a couple of years ago. I never saw any more so they may have died.
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Look at Whaly boats as well.
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Look at Whaly boats as well.
I have seen these close up and they do see well made. A lot of the rowing clubs seem to got them as more durable than a rib and safer than the "tin fishes" they use.

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A couple of Sea Scout groups around here have them.

They are good in the fact that you feel 'on' the water rather than 'in' the water like you do in a Rigiflex.

Rigiflexes have very low freeboard but are very spacious and incredibly stable.
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