wing backs on seats

two stroke mick · 11 July 2014, 12:47

I was out suring the week and I knocked a snap out of my neck ( I broke a bone in my neck about 25 years ago) This caused me much pain for a day or two. I am one again examining the coastal pro suspension seats. I am wondering if the seat with wing backs is a better purchase over the seat without the wing backs. I am wondering which will offer more protection.

TSM

Maximus · 11 July 2014, 13:28

Quality Wing Backs are a good Bet even without suspension...And a Big improvement on standard Fare...can't really comment on the Coastal Pro Rigs although they do look a lot better than the original concept seats I saw. I use Ulmann's and have found them excellent.

Hightower · 12 July 2014, 08:01

I had my wing backs made to my dimensions. They are very generous and allow me to slide my backside up and down when bending my legs to take shock, this in turn then gives me plenty of lateral support.

I think they are so important for comfort and safety every boat I ever own in the future will have wings.

biffer · 12 July 2014, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I had my wing backs made to my dimensions. They are very generous and allow me to slide my backside up and down when bending my legs to take shock, this in turn then gives me plenty of lateral support.

I think they are so important for comfort and safety every boat I ever own in the future will have wings.

Must have been really wide wings then mate. LOL

kwil · 12 July 2014, 13:33

Fitted the Coastal Pro with wing backs this spring, the difference from the original non-wingback jockeys is like night and day. They just hold you nice and steady whilst the mechanism smooths out the bumps and jolts. I have an old spine injury that would have stopped me going out in conditions I can now go out in.
Keith

Hightower · 12 July 2014, 19:20

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Originally Posted by biffer

Must have been really wide wings then mate. LOL

Oh man! That hurts

biffer · 12 July 2014, 19:58

Gotta larf

Hightower · 12 July 2014, 22:04

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Originally Posted by biffer

gotta larf

xx<3xx

redthunder · 13 July 2014, 07:16

I found that wingbacks are great when the boat is rising and falling bow to stern. But when the boat starts twisting and dropping on one side the top half of my body gets left behind and this can hurt the back. This is on fIxed jockeys. When I tried Scott suspension seats at Seawork I'm sure that if you had wings it was for sitting only

two stroke mick · 13 July 2014, 09:51

red thunder has addressed my concerns re the wing back. if the rib has lateral movement this may cause additional injury

Robbie Diesel · 13 July 2014, 10:37

I would say if the wing backs are set at the correct height, then when you are standing up the wings should be around your bottom or marginally higher, that way your can still lean your upper body left to right. At least that's how it works on my boat & I've had no injury, pain or anything in big Hebridean seas!

The only disadvantage to wing backs I have found is the space they take up. I have a double width console with 4 x jockeys & used to be able to walk up the middle of the rib, between the jockeys. But not now! Still well worth having. 120NM round trip to ST-Kilda the wing backs made a huge difference!

two stroke mick · 13 July 2014, 13:19

this may seem like a stipud question: what is the purpose of the wings? is it to hold you in place when sitting or to hold your bum in place when standing

Robbie Diesel · 13 July 2014, 13:33

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Originally Posted by two stroke mick

this may seem like a stipud question: what is the purpose of the wings? is it to hold you in place when sitting or to hold your bum in place when standing

both!

willk · 13 July 2014, 14:27

I find wingbacks superior to standard backs in both fixed and shock mitigation applications, sitting or standing. They DO remove a lot of "passing" space in a boat...

redthunder · 15 July 2014, 06:30

There fine when standing. But sitting is where I find them twisting my body when the boat is twisting from side to side. Body still going one way then boat tips the other. Ouch

Plus when standing there is a lot of load on the back rests from twisting. I had the welds snap on a mates boat and he has had to upgrade the bracing in a major way as they keep going

Trevor G · 15 July 2014, 21:14

Hi TSM - your mailbox is full so I thought I'd reply here....
Regarding the Coastal Pro seats I have fitted -
I'm not sure of the price difference between the CP10 and the CP20 - but if you are going to use the seats for long distance cruising and you have enough room then the wingbacks certainly give you more lateral support if the boat twists. The Wingbacks are an integral part of the CP20 as far as I know- they are welded on rather than a bolt-on extra like some of the other makes.
If you're not going to use the boat for really long cruises, then I think the CP10's are definitely better than standard Jockey seats.
FYI The mechanism's for both the CP10 and CP20 are identical - it's only the seat top that's different.
I only know this because I was talking to Craig at Coastal Pro last week to order another CP20 for Baby Blue. The two I had that were fitted to the Baby Blue for the Round Ireland trip have have just been transferred to Blue Ray for our RB cruise that we hope to start next week.

two stroke mick · 26 September 2014, 15:23

I placed an order for the compact seat this week. I cannot afford it however given the back problems I had this summer I cannot afford not to. I was saving for the RI 2016 but I think that fecked now as I had to buy one of these seats. I found that I could only stay very inshore this summer which is not like me. I spend most of my time between Boffin, Turk, Clare Island and Achill Island. This can be some confused water.

TSM

Maximus · 26 September 2014, 16:54

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Originally Posted by two stroke mick

I placed an order for the compact seat this week. I cannot afford it however given the back problems I had this summer I cannot afford not to. I was saving for the RI 2016 but I think that fecked now as I had to buy one of these seats. I found that I could only stay very inshore this summer which is not like me. I spend most of my time between Boffin, Turk, Clare Island and Achill Island. This can be some confused water.

TSM

I wish you well with your new Purchase.....should help quite a bit!
Don't be too complacent though...I've still managed to 'Bottom out' once or twice on mine

two stroke mick · 08 December 2014, 14:24

New Coastal Pro seat arrived to-day. I must say it looks good. If if behaves as good as it looks I shall be a very happy boy

TSM

Trevor G · 08 December 2014, 14:32

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Originally Posted by two stroke mick

New Coastal Pro seat arrived to-day. I must say it looks good. If if behaves as good as it looks I shall be a very happy boy

TSM

Don't forget it will take a bit of trial and error to set up the spring tension - we set ours so we (I) just don't bottom out on a big landing. Too soft and you'll bottom out, but too hard and you'll not be getting the best protection on "normal" bumpy seas (Just my opinion of course!).
Trev