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Old 14 June 2011, 06:48   #1
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Warning - Thefts from Homes

While looking through the stolen boat website at all types of craft one thing is becoming obvious, many sportsboats including ribs and hard boats are being stolen from people's homes. Some being stolen from places like the New Forest or other area's which you would not just come across a boat in a driveway and pinch it on spur of the moment. So the conclusion is that these thefts maybe specifically targeted thefts.

The warning would be keep an eye out when you recover your boat from whichever slipway you are using is there anyone paying too much attention to your recover methods, is there anyone appearing to be following you home !

Additionally be careful of any information you give out on forums which may indicate where abouts you live or your boat is stored and any pictures posted which may indicate where you live.

It might be worthwhile the admin of this site also issuing a warning, looking at some of the details associated with users details marina's in many cases.

The number of thefts from people's homes is increasing.

This post is meant to help and not alarm anyone.

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Old 14 June 2011, 12:31   #2
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Below is a slightly edited copy of a post I made a few years ago (original is HERE):-

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I've been thinking about this for a bit as I don't want someone to take my boat either and I got thinking. What would I do if I wanted to steal a boat and what would put me off it? Think as though you're a thief and you'll get most of the answers.

So, let's go and steal a boat.

1) First I've got to find one.

2) The first thing I'd do is case the area-maybe days in advance. I'd look for a way out with the boat in tow. If there's too many obstacles,it's in plain view of the owner or security or the 4x4 won't get there I won't bother with it.What I want is an easy in,easy out situation with something I can sell. What I don't want is to spend ages there,attract attention or not be able to sell what I'm planning to steal.

3) I'd turn up in a stolen 4x4 or one with false plates. CCTV is useless unless someone's monitoring it live. All I need to keep my face hidden is a balaclava. If I'm seen by anyone on site I'll have to leave rather fast anyway.

4) If feasable I'll hide the 4x4 close by and walk to the boat with the tools to remove the security. I'd get it ready to couple up and run-as long as I could get there without being seen. I want to be able to run easily if detected too-I'd rather leave empty handed and not get caught.

5) With a few simple tools that are easily available and some easy techniques I can get around any security on the trailer with minimum noise and fuss-and within a minute(I've already cased the OBVIOUS security and brought the right tools and equipment). If I bugger up the boat or trailer it's not mine anyway...

6) I'll walk up to the boat and give it a good hard shake to see if an alarm goes off.If it does I leave. If not, I'll get the 4x4 opening any accesses/gates etc in advance. I then couple up and run. I'll do all this as quietly as possible.

7) Once I'm off the premises with the boat in tow and round a couple of corners I've got away with it.


Right. What's going to put me off or stop me?

1)I can't steal what I can't see. Don't leave it in plain view of lots of passers by or an access road if possible.

2)Make access difficult. Access that can't be made without a tractor will put most thieves right off.Barking dogs would be a good put-off but we don't all have that luxury. Locked gates are good-even farm gates. It all takes time to open up and if it's too much hassle a thief will move elsewhere.CCTV on access will help at this point-just not if you want to catch them...

3)PIR lights will alert someone to the presence of the tow vehicle. As long as the site LOOKS like there's someone there that might see them then a PIR light will scare off a thief.

4)If possible put your boat somewhere where anyone stealing it will have to pass somewhere with an inhabitant.

5)Apart from the security you need for your insurance, make any other security either too hard to disable or very hard to see. If you're using a padlock use one like this:-

Or one like these:-


The enclosed clasp is a bastard to get to with boltcutters and the padlock is usually the weak link in the chain-so shift the attention elsewhere.
Use stainless chain if possible. It's harder to get through with easily portable 'tools' that don't make a hell of a noise than ANY hardened security chain (if you know how then hardened security chain is embarrassingly easy to remove) and it takes significantly longer to get through it with an oxy-acetylene porta-pak.
A ground anchor with chain to the centre of the trailer axle will be all but invisible. It won't do your trailer much good but better that the whole lot isn't nicked. Another 'hassle' factor for the thief-once he's hitched up he wants to leave. If you're lucky it'll rip his towbar off...

6) An alarm that 'chirps' to let people know it's armed along with a tight fitted cover would scare me off. It'd be a lot of hassle to remove or slash a tight cover,get aboard a boat,boltcrop any padlocks on hatches,find the battery and disconnect it without setting the alarm off.It's not like it's in a public carpark where people will ignore an alarm-it's in storage or at your home. One with it's own backup battery would be even better. Obstructions to hitching up would put me off too-for example if I had to turn the boat through 90 degrees or manoevre it around a bit by hand to hitch up.

7)A GPS tracker would be good here.Then you can go and visit the thieves
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Wow you got a devious mind LOL, good thinking
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Thanks, I think

Since I wrote that post, Google Street view has appeared. Make sure your boat isn't on it.
If there's a local anti-theft initiative,like Boatwatch join it.

One other thing. If you're chaining your trailer to something, keep the chain slack but off the ground. It's very very difficult to cut a slack chain with a grinder or an oxy torch. If the chain is large and somewhere it's impossible to get proper access with crops, so much the better.

There is a few other simple things that'll really put a thief off being there-but I don't really want to say any of it in a public forum as anyone can read it. PMs are welcome
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what about something like a infra red sensor connected to a security light and alarm, the sensor to cover the drive way, once set anyone who approached over the threshold would set the alarm off. Would need to position to person height to avoid foxes etc tripping it. Or maybe just a simple CCTV camera pointing at the boat would be enouth to deter them.
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One other thing. If you're chaining your trailer to something, keep the chain slack but off the ground. It's very very difficult to cut a slack chain with a grinder or an oxy torch. If the chain is large and somewhere it's impossible to get proper access with crops, so much the better.

There is a few other simple things that'll really put a thief off being there-but I don't really want to say any of it in a public forum as anyone can read it. PMs are welcome
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While looking through the stolen boat website at all types of craft one thing is becoming obvious, many sportsboats including ribs and hard boats are being stolen from people's homes. Some being stolen from places like the New Forest or other area's which you would not just come across a boat in a driveway and pinch it on spur of the moment. So the conclusion is that these thefts maybe specifically targeted thefts.

The warning would be keep an eye out when you recover your boat from whichever slipway you are using is there anyone paying too much attention to your recover methods, is there anyone appearing to be following you home !

Additionally be careful of any information you give out on forums which may indicate where abouts you live or your boat is stored and any pictures posted which may indicate where you live.

It might be worthwhile the admin of this site also issuing a warning, looking at some of the details associated with users details marina's in many cases.

The number of thefts from people's homes is increasing.

This post is meant to help and not alarm anyone.

Boris
Just 1 item to add to this thread,i have taken off the wheels on my trailer & when not in use for a few months have also taken off the hubs so no 1 can just slot some wheels on & pull it away easily. it seems a bit long winded but it helps me sleep better knowing that theives may just pass on by.
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Old 25 September 2011, 11:11   #9
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I wondered about the security of all the RIBs moored up in various harbours. There must be 20 -30 very expensive RIBs moored for the summer where I go I am amazed they are not just motored to a nearby slip in a neighbouring harbour and simply driven away or even be brave and use the slip in their own harbour - what are the chances of someone recognising the boat when it's early morning/evening! I expect most trailers could be adapted to temporarily fit if they were big enough?

The theives are on top of most security gadgets it can't be hard to get an engine going Selling it on could be more tricky.........
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Yep valid point scarry innit.i work in the motor trade & compared to boat security its like being in the 70s
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