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Old 10 September 2010, 18:33   #21
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This is my personal experience and I felt like sharing it with the rest of you so that you do not do the same mistake as me. What would you guys do next?
From what I can see I certainly wouldn't say that the tubes have been ruined. It's difficult to judge properly from photos, but any damage seems to be very superficial. You may know it's there, but would anyone else actually notice?

I'm sure that it is annoying, but I don't really know what you're trying to achieve. You clearly look after your RIB very carefully, but you didn't do a test patch first. We all know that this is sensible, but I guess most of us don't generally bother which does make us at least part responsible if there's a problem.

I don't mind you asking here to see if there's a general problem with the RIB shop stuff. If loads of people came forward to say they've had problems then you might have a case. That hasn't happened though, and now you're just using the site as a stick to beat RIBshop with which is unlikely to be very helpful.

Maybe someone independent like Henshaws or Paul Tilley would like to comment, either here or by PM?
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Old 11 September 2010, 03:28   #22
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No, I'd agree. Those tubes and probably the boat are definitely ruined. With that amount of damage I doubt it will even float.
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hmmm...

In have also had this problem, and have scratched my tubes in a few small areas, trying to get rid of some particularly stubborn marks. Not too happy about that, but definitely my fault, although i did not ask Ribshop if using the green scourers should be OK. On the last clean, I stuck to using a sponge, and now I know the white scourers from supermarket might be best for those tough spots thanks to this thread.

Even though she has some scratches, I would most definitely not classify my tubes as "ruined"
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No, I'd agree. Those tubes and probably the boat are definitely ruined. With that amount of damage I doubt it will even float.
Yes. So bad, I'll be doing you a favour by taking it off your hands for 150.
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Thank you for your reply,

You`re right, I know they are there and that is enough for me and as mentioned ealier, the damages are much easier to see than to photo. Annoying yes and my motivation behind this thread is to warn others from doing the same mistake as me. My fault or the pads? I have no doubt in my mind.

If you took you car to a car cleaner and you found the paint scratched/damaged afterwards, what would you do?
The fine thing with a car is that you can quite easily and permanently fix any scratches and this is not the case with my boat.

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From what I can see I certainly wouldn't say that the tubes have been ruined. It's difficult to judge properly from photos, but any damage seems to be very superficial. You may know it's there, but would anyone else actually notice?

I'm sure that it is annoying, but I don't really know what you're trying to achieve. You clearly look after your RIB very carefully, but you didn't do a test patch first. We all know that this is sensible, but I guess most of us don't generally bother which does make us at least part responsible if there's a problem.

I don't mind you asking here to see if there's a general problem with the RIB shop stuff. If loads of people came forward to say they've had problems then you might have a case. That hasn't happened though, and now you're just using the site as a stick to beat RIBshop with which is unlikely to be very helpful.

Maybe someone independent like Henshaws or Paul Tilley would like to comment, either here or by PM?
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Thank you for your reply,

You`re right, I know they are there and that is enough for me and as mentioned ealier, the damages are much easier to see than to photo. Annoying yes and my motivation behind this thread is to warn others from doing the same mistake as me. My fault or the pads? I have no doubt in my mind.

If you took you car to a car cleaner and you found the paint scratched/damaged afterwards, what would you do?
The fine thing with a car is that you can quite easily and permanently fix any scratches and this is not the case with my boat.

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If I took my car to get valetted and the company damaged it I would be p**sed off and complain until it was made good. However if I bought some cleaning materials and scratched my car myself because I was too aggressive with the materials, or hadn't washed the grit off it first or even if the materials were tougher than similar things I had used before and I hadn't "practiced / tested" first then I'd feel like a bit of a tit - but I wouldn't expect any compensation from the supplier of the goods.

I wonder if a wipe over with some thinners might be enough to "soften" the surface layer and cover over the scratches? - but of course try a small unseen area first
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If I took my car to get valetted and the company damaged it I would be p**sed off and complain until it was made good.
So would everyone else I believe. But it was dark and you did not see anything before the next day and the company give you the shoulder.

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However if I bought some cleaning materials and scratched my car myself because I was too aggressive with the materials, or hadn't washed the grit off it first or even if the materials were tougher than similar things I had used before and I hadn't "practiced / tested" first then I'd feel like a bit of a tit - but I wouldn't expect any compensation from the supplier of the goods.
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I wonder if a wipe over with some thinners might be enough to "soften" the surface layer and cover over the scratches?
Interesting. What thinners would you recommend? Lynol? Acetone?

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Interesting. What thinners would you recommend? Lynol? Acetone?
IF it was mine I'd give toluene or Gunwash (used for cleaning out spray paint guns) a try - but definitely in a discrete area first. I don't know if it is possible for that to fix any scratch never mind how deep yours are in real life, but people use it for cleaning really bad tubes and describe the surface as going slightly sticky/tacky afterwards. You'll want to put some protector on it afterwards.
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Hypalon's an extremely hard wearing material, that's why they make ribs out of it. Those scratchy pads wear out in no time when yours scrubbing things so when you pitch the two materials up against each other its no contest surely? So any scratches to the surface of the hypalon must be very superficial, probably just changing the finish from glossy (your tubes look very shiny) to matt. Toluene or acetone should have a good chance to even the surface finish out to a uniform matt which you could then build on again with whatever protectant you use. All just theory of course
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I mentioned on one of the many tube cleaning threads, that I went at the Searider with wire wool and gunwash. It requires a little care, but gave a good result.
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