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Old 12 September 2011, 19:50   #81
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most ladders are not rated for me! I can't even use a wii fit.. lol as long it could take a half of Scott it will be ok for normal use!

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Old 13 September 2011, 16:58   #82
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Must have been a relief that the whole lot wasn't one giant piece of fibre glass - because when you do damage that its going to be expensive!
Hardly - it wouldn't have deteriorated and so no damage and no expense.

BTW your argument about customising a dive RIB with a ply deck doesn't hold water (unlike the ply floor itself!) because there's nothing you can do with a ply deck that you can't do with a moulded deck. Every attachment you make to the ply+laminate deck risks the integrity of the waterproofing of the laminate (you're totally dependant on the skill and dilligence of the fitter doing the work, or in the case of a Ribcraft fitter, lack of skill and dilligence!), but there's no risk with the moulded deck. I had extra lashing eyes and a huge cleat on the deck of the Scorpion which were fitted after manufacture and they were just perfect.
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Richard,

So nobody had EVER damaged a GRP deck by e.g. dropping a twinset or big anchor on it? And nobody has ever fitted dodgy deck hardware to a GRP deck (especially with a foam core) which have then been ripped out?

Many GRP decked boats have consoles, seats etc all integrated. Now this is great for production and certainly stops the seats going overboard if some idiot has stuck them on with bathroom sealant. The point I was making about a flat deck being more flexible was that if one person (or every customer) wants something completely different its much easier to do when you are just sticking bits together than when your entire arrangement is moulded in one piece. You could still mould the deck, seats, console etc all separately but that is not going to bring you cost savings that a standard design could.

I think you are intentionally ignoring my point that I don't see anything wrong with making decks from GRP if that suits your application, but that actually there are plenty of wooden decked ribs out there which show that when it is done right it is absolutely fine. But if your staff have the training, skills, competence, and expertise to correctly lay up a fibreglass deck and if your quality systems are robust enough to ensure they aren't taking short cuts then surely they are also good enough to ensure that every hole in a wooden deck is correctly sealed.
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if your staff have the training, skills, competence, and expertise to correctly lay up a fibreglass deck and if your quality systems are robust enough to ensure they aren't taking short cuts then surely they are also good enough to ensure that every hole in a wooden deck is correctly sealed.
Lots of "if"s, and one of the country's leading and respected RIB manufacturers failed in all of them.
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Lots of "if"s, and one of the country's leading and respected RIB manufacturers failed in all of them.
But what makes you think if a builder can't fit a hatch that they would laminate a deck correctly. Or add sufficient reinforcement to high load areas of a deck / where deck hardware goes. At least PD can fix poor finishing with some epoxy, some sikaflex and maybe an oversized hatch. If they had cocked up a grp deck it wouldn't be so easy.
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If they can't even fit a hatch correctly, then I have absolutely no confidence in their abilities in any area at all. In fact it's worse than that - it demonstrates a complete lack of process management and quality assurance. It's typical of a cottage industry which has grown and failed to implement production standards and management in their big grown up new world. This might sound harsh, but's it realistic. It's where Jaguar cars were (along with most of British manufacturing industry) 30-40 years ago, albeit on a larger scale.
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